Anyone here using or is familiar with the Luckymobile service?

https://luckymobile.ca

Recently, they reconfigured their packages.

Examples..

WAS:

$40/mo = 5GB data
$25/mo = 500MB data

NOW:

$40/mo = 74GB data
$34/mo = 50GB data
$29/mo = 20GB data

New first time users can get 35GB data for 2 years at the $29
pricepoint

Also.. is anyone using Luckymobile manual top-ups and
encountering balances that don't get used up?


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Anyone here using or is familiar with the Luckymobile service?

https://luckymobile.ca

Recently, they reconfigured their packages.

Examples..

WAS:

$40/mo = 5GB data

>$25/mo = 500MB data

NOW:

$40/mo = 74GB data

>$34/mo = 50GB data
>$29/mo = 20GB data

Hi August

Sorry, I just saw this message. I wasn't getting packets for a while.

I've been with Lucky for over 5 years. A couple of years back I saw that
they now were offering a plan at the same price with a couple of extra gig
but you have to pretend you are changing to a new package to get the new
data levels. (i.e. - Changing from their $40 plan to their $40 plan..)

But I haven't been on their main site in ages and I had no idea they had
made such drastic changes so, thanks, I'll have to go back and check it
out and maybe save $11 a month to get more than double the data.

You asked something about Top Up Balances not getting used up. I'm not sure what you meant by that. I've had a positive balance there for quite a while,
if it's still there when I go to the site, and it stayed there for years
but I don't generally use Top Ups other than the payment for the full plan.

*******

This added later.. I checked that out online and all those super plans and prices are for new customers only. I'm still glad you mentioned it because
it will allow me to go from the 5 gig plan at $40 to a new 10 gig plan at faster speeds for $35 so that's better than nothing but it annoys me that
they offer these super deals to new customers, that I believe are locked
in, not temporary, (if they don't change their plan), but us loyal
long-time customers are given much worse options.

I hate to change suppliers but another place with super plans these days
is the NoName Mobile plans put out by Loblaws stores. I saw that on a
NoFrills store flyer and checked it out online and the plans look really
good (US coverage and lots more data at lower prices) and, as near as I
can tell, they are using the Bell Network so should have the same
coverage as Lucky and other Bell supported companies.

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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Sunday 04.08.24 - 01:00, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

I've been with Lucky for over 5 years. A couple of years
back I saw that they now were offering a plan at the same
price with a couple of extra gig but you have to pretend
you are changing to a new package to get the new data
levels. (i.e. - Changing from their $40 plan to their $40
plan..)

Yep.. I was not even aware that was an option until I ventured
into the "Change Plan" section. I was at $40/mo, 5GB, for a
long time. Then I just happened to notice they were offering
75GB for the same 40$ monthly. I decided to save money instead
and switched to the $29/mo plan at 25GB.

But I haven't been on their main site in ages and I had no
idea they had made such drastic changes so, thanks, I'll
have to go back and check it out and maybe save $11 a
month to get more than double the data.

You have to decide fast. Aug 6 will introduce a new set of
"plans".

You asked something about Top Up Balances not getting used
up. I'm not sure what you meant by that. I've had a
positive balance there for quite a while, if it's still
there when I go to the site, and it stayed there for years
but I don't generally use Top Ups other than the payment
for the full plan.

What I mean is that with auto-topup (via credit card or
qualifying debit card) your existing and banked Lucky dollars
never get used for payment. The only way to force the system to
use any of your banked Lucky dollars is to disable auto-topup.

This added later.. I checked that out online and all those
super plans and prices are for new customers only. I'm
still glad you mentioned it because it will allow me to go
from the 5 gig plan at $40 to a new 10 gig plan at faster
speeds for $35 so that's better than nothing but it annoys
me that they offer these super deals to new customers,
that I believe are locked in, not temporary, (if they
don't change their plan), but us loyal long-time customers
are given much worse options.

You can still come in as a new user, and add that account to
your existing login if you want. Luckymobile doesn't seem to
care.

And yes.. the plan structure seemed to penalize existing long-
time customers! But I was kinda lucky and got the $29/mo plan
at 25GB. Later, when a friend of mine (and an existing user)
wanted the same thing a few weeks later, the $29|25GB plan was
nolonger an option. Apparently, the $29 plan was a mistake.
But, I got it before it got removed for existing customers.

Meanwhile, my friend just registered a new plan (a new SIM) and
got it that way. He merged that service into his existing
account without issues.

I hate to change suppliers but another place with super
plans these days is the NoName Mobile plans put out by
Loblaws stores. I saw that on a NoFrills store flyer and
checked it out online and the plans look really good (US
coverage and lots more data at lower prices) and, as near
as I can tell, they are using the Bell Network so should
have the same coverage as Lucky and other Bell supported
companies.

I wasn't really aware that NoFrills had a NoName mobile
offering until few weeks ago. The pricing seems very close if
not identical.
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Yep.. I was not even aware that was an option until I ventured

>into the "Change Plan" section. I was at $40/mo, 5GB, for a
>long time. Then I just happened to notice they were offering
>75GB for the same 40$ monthly. I decided to save money instead
>and switched to the $29/mo plan at 25GB.

They still show the $29 for 20GB so it hasn't suffered too badly.

You have to decide fast. Aug 6 will introduce a new set of

>"plans".

Hopefully I won't regret what I changed to after that, although it's
always easy enough to change your plan.

The plan I was working on went through as of the next billing period.
I wasn't quite sure what they do if you change your plan in the middle
of a billing month, if you lose money or get a credit and a new billing
date but I didn't mind waiting a couple of weeks and leaving the dates
as they were. I got an eMail from them saying it's now scheduled so it
all looks good.

You asked something about Top Up Balances not getting used
up. I'm not sure what you meant by that.

What I mean is that with auto-topup (via credit card or

>qualifying debit card) your existing and banked Lucky dollars
>never get used for payment. The only way to force the system to
>use any of your banked Lucky dollars is to disable auto-topup.

Okay, I see that. I have about $7.50 Lucky Dollars and I figured the
only way to use it was to buy some extras one month but I haven't had
a need for anything so far.

they offer super deals to new customers,
but not to us loyal long-time customers

You can still come in as a new user, and add that account to

>your existing login if you want. Luckymobile doesn't seem to
>care.

That just seems odd. You're either new or not, and if you add on the
account doesn't that leave you paying for 2 separate accounts, the bulk
of which is for the unlimited phone use so adding more of that is no use.

I hate to change suppliers but another place with super
plans these days is the NoName Mobile plans put out by
Loblaws stores. I saw that on a NoFrills store flyer and
checked it out online and the plans look really good

I wasn't really aware that NoFrills had a NoName mobile

>offering until few weeks ago. The pricing seems very close if
>not identical.

Most of it is fairly close, although I saw it before seeing the new
offers from Lucky so it was a bit of a shock. I think on the lower
priced plans at NoName you get US calling included which I don't
think hits the cheaper plans at Lucky but I could jump from 10 gig
at $35 to 80 gig with US calling thrown in at Lucky for another $5
which is tempting at that price even if I'll probably never use the
extra data or the US calling..

One thing they said was being cut off as 'incompatible' was the
extra 2 gig I was getting on my old plan for having automatic top up.
Do you have that set up and did they give you something extra for
that on the new plan?
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Hello Rob Mccart!

** On Wednesday 07.08.24 - 00:51, Rob Mccart wrote to AUGUST ABOLINS:

They still show the $29 for 20GB so it hasn't suffered too badly.

It's not offered for existing users though. So, unless you
register as a new user (with another number), $29/20GB is not
an option.

When I go into Change plan, I only see:

$50/100GB
$40/75GB
$35/10GB
$25/500MB

On one of my accounts (I have 4 Lucky accounts) I'm
grandfathered in at $15/500MB, data only, and I get a 6-payment
reward of 250MB, and an autotop-up 250MB bonus, for a total
1GB. The same $15 plan is nolonger available to anyone.

Hopefully I won't regret what I changed to after that,
although it's always easy enough to change your plan.

Which one did you change to?

The plan I was working on went through as of the next
billing period. I wasn't quite sure what they do if you
change your plan in the middle of a billing month, if you
lose money or get a credit and a new billing date but I
didn't mind waiting a couple of weeks and leaving the
dates as they were. I got an eMail from them saying it's
now scheduled so it all looks good.

Yep.. When adjusted my plans, I always optioned to remain on
the same period and wait for the change to kick in according to
schedule.

What I mean is that with auto-topup (via credit card or

qualifying debit card) your existing and banked Lucky
dollars never get used for payment. The only way to force
the system to use any of your banked Lucky dollars is to
disable auto-topup.

Okay, I see that. I have about $7.50 Lucky Dollars and I figured the
only way to use it was to buy some extras one month but I haven't had
a need for anything so far.

Nope. That won't work. If you buy extra, and top up your
account manually, it will just add to the balance and NOT get
used if you have the autotop-up (credit card) option selected.

You can still come in as a new user, and add that account
to your existing login if you want. Luckymobile doesn't
seem to care.

That just seems odd. You're either new or not, and if you
add on the account doesn't that leave you paying for 2
separate accounts, the bulk of which is for the unlimited
phone use so adding more of that is no use.

Yup.. they penalize existing users that way.

But I suppose you could use up the balance of the original
account, or cancel the credit-card topup option for it, and
then simply port that number over to the second account before
the first account's billing period ends.

I wasn't really aware that NoFrills had a NoName mobile

offering until few weeks ago. The pricing seems very close
if not identical.

Most of it is fairly close, although I saw it before
seeing the new offers from Lucky so it was a bit of a
shock. I think on the lower priced plans at NoName you get
US calling included which I don't think hits the cheaper
plans at Lucky but I could jump from 10 gig at $35 to 80
gig with US calling thrown in at Lucky for another $5
which is tempting at that price even if I'll probably
never use the extra data or the US calling..

NoName's base GB values are about 5GB higher than at Lucky,
plus they include the US talk and text too. Hmmmm. I might
switch/port to NoName for my business phone since the US
calling could be handy at times.

One thing they said was being cut off as 'incompatible'
was the extra 2 gig I was getting on my old plan for
having automatic top up. Do you have that set up and did
they give you something extra for that on the new plan?

I am not sure what you mean. On three of my plans, I changed
from $40/mo to the $29/mo offerings at the time. The existing
bonuses (6-payment rewards, and 12-payment rewards) all carried
over too.

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On one of my accounts (I have 4 Lucky accounts) I'm

>grandfathered in at $15/500MB, data only, and I get a 6-payment
>reward of 250MB, and an autotop-up 250MB bonus, for a total
>1GB. The same $15 plan is nolonger available to anyone.

I'd think these days you could get a lot more data for less money but
I haven't looked into simple data plans there in years.

Which one did you change to?

I figured I wouldn't need more extras so I just went with the
$35 plan with 10 gig of data for now at least. You get so much
more for an extra $5 it is tempting to take that plan whether
you need it or not. (80 gig plus USA calling)

One thing they said was being cut off as 'incompatible'
was the extra 2 gig I was getting on my old plan for
having automatic top up. Do you have that set up and did
they give you something extra for that on the new plan?

I am not sure what you mean. On three of my plans, I changed

>from $40/mo to the $29/mo offerings at the time. The existing
>bonuses (6-payment rewards, and 12-payment rewards) all carried
>over too.

I got those 2 rewards already added to the 10 gig starting next week
but I was getting a 2 gig bonus for automatic top-ups and they said
when I chose that plan that it wasn't compatable since the 2 gig was
at 3G speeds where the new plan is at 4G. I'm hoping there will be
some sort of similar reward for having automatic top-ups on the new
plan but it wasn't mentioned in the details when I switched. I guess
I'll find out next week. They seem to always give good data bonuses
for doing that.

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August,

$50/100GB
$40/75GB
$35/10GB
$25/500MB

You guys are real suckers.

I pay something like 48 Euro for 3TB ... residential...

\%/@rd

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Hello Ward!

$50/100GB
$40/75GB
$35/10GB
$25/500MB

You guys are real suckers.

I pay something like 48 Euro for 3TB ... residential...

You haven't been paying attention. We were discussing mobile
data.
--
../|ug

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Hello Ward,

19 Aug 24 09:28, you wrote to August Abolins:

$50/100GB
$40/75GB
$35/10GB
$25/500MB

You guys are real suckers.

I pay something like 48 Euro for 3TB ... residential...

30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ? ;))

Regards,
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Dear August,

You guys are real suckers.

I pay something like 48 Euro for 3TB ... residential...

You haven't been paying attention. We were discussing mobile data.

You are right, I wasn't paying attention.

For mobile data I pay 40.50 Euro for 500GBm that's CAD$61.22.

You're still being screwed by your operator there.

When I'm in Canada or the USA (as I was 2 weeks ago) when I use my cellphone to roam intercontinental, I pay a daily charge of 5.95 Euro, let's say CAD$6.00 and then my Belgian phone and data-plan continues in Canada and the USA with a maximum of 55 Euro per month. Also the 500GB continues with that.

You guys badly need to talk to your providers.

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Daniel,

30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ? ;))

And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

\%/@rd

--- DB4 - 20230201
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Hello Ward,

19 Aug 24 22:06, you wrote to me:

30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ?
;))

And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised, but good catch. :)

a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax (150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the next day they back off.

Regards,
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Daniel,

And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised, but good catch. :)

Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax (150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the next day they back
off.

When politicians need money, they become very resourceful.

So, millions took to the streets against an internet-tax but they still vote for such an idiot like Orban?

Maybe the numbers are 'slightly' exagerated?

Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ... how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

\%/@rd

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Hello Daniel Path!

30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, ...

With Luckymobile, the data is "unlimited" too, but it's
throttled to 128Kbps or less after the selected quota.

All the other Canadian mobile carriers do a hard cut-off of
data when the selected quota is reached.

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30 EUR for unlimited call/sms/data on mobile, 15 EUR for unlimited
gigabit optical internet in the office. now who is the sucker ?

And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly there?

haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still- liberalised,

>but good catch. :)

In Canada it's sort of liberalized but the gov't tends to protect large companies like Bell Canada from foreign (generally USA) 'interference',
which has let them charge much higher prices. It is finally getting a
lot better than it was, even if it's not quite as cheap as many other
places, after threats were made to stop overcharging or they would allow
other companies to come in (mostly from the USA).

So what ended up happening is companies like Virgin and Koodo are now
offering services here at a pretty good price, but they distribute their services through one of the big Canadian company networks rather than
doing it on their own so Bell, Rogers and Telus still make money on it.

Lucky Mobile, that we've been talking about, is actually a company started
by Bell Canada as their pre-paid option. It started out cheap (for here)
but still quite costly compared to plans in the USA, but their packages
are getting better all the time. I'm now getting 5 times as much data as
I used to at $5 less per month, and at much higher data speeds, about 7
times faster than it used to be 5 years back when I started with them.

One reason I stay with Lucky rather than going with their Regular mobile service is, if you use up all your data one month, rather than cutting
you off or charging a high price to give you more, you can just continue
using data at a slower speed at no additional cost. You can't do anything
major but you can still do simple surfing and send eMails and such.
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Hello Ward,

20 Aug 24 12:35, you wrote to me:

And is the market liberalised or is it a state-owned monopoly
there?

haha. i was waiting for that question. yes it's -still-
liberalised, but good catch. :)

Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

:) the 90s are gone Ward!
Matav is now called (Deutsche) Telekom

a couple of years ago these idiots tried to make an internet-tax
(150 HUF/GB on data, approx 0.4 EUR/GB), but on the same evening
millions went on to the streets protesting against it, so on the
next day they back off.

When politicians need money, they become very resourceful.

So, millions took to the streets against an internet-tax but they
still vote for such an idiot like Orban?

stupid isn't it?

Maybe the numbers are 'slightly' exagerated?

maybe. but still, it was the largest protest.

Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

me neither, but i have to say optic is the most stable connection from all i have (i have catv at home, the weekend house, etc)

I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a
landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ... how much bandwith and speed does the residential
customer require?

there is no smaller package :( :P

Regards,
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dp

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Ah yes, Matav. I forgot where you reside. Any competitors?

:) the 90s are gone Ward!
Matav is now called (Deutsche) Telekom

Holy shit ... It's obvious I left that business 22 yrs ago ... I was asked to please retire with full benefits aged 51.

Matav's parties were the greatest, also the dinner-cruises on the Donau ... 8-) ... OTE from Greece also hosted great parties, but they were totally corrupt.

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On 20 Aug. 2024 12:35, you wrote to Daniel..

WD> Other than that I'm not impressed by fiber-optic and the need for it.

DSL is poised to be made obsolete, everywhere. My biz is less than a few hundred meters from the downtown switching station and the fastest DSL they claimed they could give me w…s 5Mbps DL and 900kbps UL, even though I was paying for a minimum 10Mbps level.

Through a fluke chance of enquiring about fiber, I was told that I could get a fiber feed and a speed of 30Mbps for both UL/DL for same price I was getting the DSL. So.. I said "let's do it".

I still enjoy my 2 copper wires connection. It serves 2 TVs, a landline, 5 or 6 mobiles, tablets and this Fido server. No delays, no malfunctions ...

You're probably getting a fiber-to-copper kind of termination that can continue to use your existing phone wiring.

how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

The biggest requirements might be if multiple family members want to each stream their own movies and play games all simultaneously.


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You're probably getting a fiber-to-copper kind of termination that can continue to use your existing phone wiring.

Nah, nah, nahhhhh....

how much bandwith and speed does the residential customer require?

The biggest requirements might be if multiple family members want to each stream their own movies and play games all simultaneously.

That's exactly what happens here ... honestly, I don't see the need for fiber. So unless they twist my arm or get me a ridiculous deal I'm staying where I am.

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