• Othernet in the echo (was: file correction)

    From Nil Alexandrov@1:16/101 to Robert Wolfe on Wed Jun 17 14:33:58 2026
    Robert,

    Tuesday June 09 2026 21:23, from Robert Wolfe -> Andrew Leary:

    [...]
    @TID: PX/Win v10.0b47 PX35-1001M
    @MSGID: 99:1/1 92df6477
    [...]
    * Origin: Santronics Online (99:1/1)
    [...]
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b40
    * Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (99:1/6)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0pr1
    * Origin: Santronics Online (99:1/1)

    This is not about binkd at all. The binkp talk is beside the point.
    What jumped out at me is the message plumbing.

    The post shows up as from 99:1/1. That's not a FidoNet address, that's othernet. Policy 4, 2.1.3 says if outside traffic enters FidoNet through
    your system, then the FidoNet node doing the gating has to be clearly identified as the point of origin.

    The PATH says this thing entered through 1:261/20, which is your FidoNet
    node. So if mail from zone 99 is being gated into a Fido echo, it ought to
    come in as 1:261/20, not 99:1/1. Otherwise replies are aimed at an address
    that isn't even in the Fido nodelist.

    There's also another zone-99 address in the quoted text, 99:1/6. Same basic problem: othernet addressing leaking into a Fido echo.

    Second problem, and this is separate: no MSGID on the actual message. FTS-9
    may call MSGID optional, but it also says MSGID/REPLY must not be stripped
    in transit. In practice, no MSGID means broken reply linkage, lousy dupe tracking, and confused gateways. If your software is dropping MSGIDs, that's
    a bug. If it never wrote one, that's not much better.

    So this isn't a binkd issue. It's a gating/tosser issue.

    And honestly, if this echo has a moderator, this sort of thing should have
    been caught already. That's part of keeping an echo from turning into a
    junk drawer.

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    * Origin: old FTN habits die hard (1:16/101)
  • From mark lewis@1:3634/12.73 to Nil Alexandrov on Wed Jun 17 19:39:14 2026

    On 2026 Jun 17 14:33:58, you wrote to Robert Wolfe:

    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0b40
    * Origin: Over the Brink : Grand Island, NY - brinkbbs.org (99:1/6)
    --- Platinum Xpress/Win/WINServer v10.0pr1
    * Origin: Santronics Online (99:1/1)

    This is not about binkd at all. The binkp talk is beside the point.
    What jumped out at me is the message plumbing.

    FWIW: it was a simple copy'pasta of the message from the original area to this area... one of two things should have been done... either the OP would have manually invalidated the othernet origin lines OR the message editor should have done it when the message was saved and a proper origin line for the destination FTN was added... apparently the editor doesn't do this so the OP should... it isn't that big a deal, really, and wildcat! has done this for decades... it is not the only one, either...

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    * Origin: (1:3634/12.73)