Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

TV content's no worse than normal for me, although normal has been
quite bad this year. I only watch ABC and SBS though, because I
can't be bothered suffering through the endless ads.

I ignore the recommendations on YouTube, but then I mainly use it
to find old TV documentaries anyway, and I download them so I don't
have to suffer YT's own ads. Many of those docos are things the ABC
used to show/make once. Conveniently I forget them entirely after
5-10 years, so they're all new to me now.

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On 30 Dec 2023 07:14:48 +1000, not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd
Kev) wrote:

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

TV content's no worse than normal for me, although normal has been
quite bad this year. I only watch ABC and SBS though, because I
can't be bothered suffering through the endless ads.

Of course. The solution is to hoard suitable TV during the year with
a PVR, employing an external HDD if necessary to increase capacity.
Ad-free movies can be downloaded via sites such as PBay & eMule etc.

I ignore the recommendations on YouTube, but then I mainly use it
to find old TV documentaries anyway, and I download them so I don't
have to suffer YT's own ads. Many of those docos are things the ABC
used to show/make once. Conveniently I forget them entirely after
5-10 years, so they're all new to me now.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

So I have been on Youtube, and it is gettingswamped by AI-generated >>>> clickbait.

TV content's no worse than normal for me, although normal hasbeen
quite bad this year. I only watch ABC and SBS though,because I can't
be bothered suffering through the endless ads.

Of course. The solution is to hoard suitable TV during the year with
a PVR, employing an external HDD if necessary to increase capacity.

You don't need to anymore. Iview etc allows
you to watch stuff any time you like now.

It's cheaper to get it from broadcast TV than pay for lots of
internet data. But often I just like to turn the TV on and watch
something (other than an ad) without planning exactly what. Failing
that I have always got something downloaded, or on DVD/VHS. I do
record shows, but I can't be bothered FF-ing through too many ads
or fiddling with a commercial skipper application.

Ad-free movies can be downloaded via sites such as PBay & eMule etc.

And torrents and most of the doco series etc too.

Many old TV docos are on YouTube where you can use a downloader
program to grab them in a more sensibly low resolution than those
P2P services where everything's usually encoded at massive
resolutions and bitrates. The Internet Archive is great as well,
except sometimes a bit harder to search.

That said, I can download and scale-down videos from P2P on a cheap
VPS and then download the smaller versions at my end, which works
well for docos that I can't find on YouTube etc.

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Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote:

Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote

Rod Speed <rod.speed.aaa@gmail.com> wrote

Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote

not@telling.you.invalid (Computer Nerd Kev) wrote

Nomen Nescio <nobody@dizum.com> wrote

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting
swamped by AI-generated clickbait.

TV content's no worse than normal for me, although normal has been
quite bad this year. I only watch ABC and SBS though,because I can't >>>>> be bothered suffering through the endless ads.

Of course. The solution is to hoard suitable TV during the year with
a PVR, employing an external HDD if necessary to increase capacity.

You don't need to anymore. Iview etc allows
you to watch stuff any time you like now.

It's cheaper to get it from broadcastTV than pay for lots of internet
data.

I pay nothing for internet data because my plan is unlimited.

Then you pay to have them take off the limit.

The options are mobile broadband or satellite where I am, so that
changes the equations (and reliability) anyway. But with the
~$2.70/month I pay for internet currently, I'd probably still go
the same way if I lived in town.

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Nomen Nescio wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

sure is! however prime is only about 7 bucks a year , plus u get one
month free so that would take you up to the end of January for nix!

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On 29-Dec-23 3:18 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

It's always been bad during no ratings season (are we there yet?).

I have lived in Australia for decades now, but I visited Australia
during the Christmas period in about 1985. TV was nothing but repeats of
old stuff.

Sylvia.

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Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

On 29-Dec-23 3:18 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

It's always been bad during no ratings season (are we there yet?).

I think the current no ratings season started about five years ago
and never stopped. I only watch ABC and SBS but there doesn't seem
to be any time of year where they're afraid to show repeats on their
main channels in prime time-slots.

I don't watch much YouTube, but I'm still finding old documentaries
on the Internet Archive and via eDonkey to fill the void. I've
Probably seen a few of those before too but after 10-15 years I
remember next to nothing. Currently enjoying "History Undercover:
Secret Aircraft of WWII" from 2004.

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On 24 Nov 2024 16:13:27 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev
<not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

Sylvia Else <sylvia@email.invalid> wrote:

On 29-Dec-23 3:18 pm, Nomen Nescio wrote:

So I have been on Youtube, and it is getting swamped by
AI-generated clickbait.

It's always been bad during no ratings season (are we there yet?).

I think the current no ratings season started about five years ago
and never stopped. I only watch ABC and SBS but there doesn't seem
to be any time of year where they're afraid to show repeats on their
main channels in prime time-slots.

I don't watch much YouTube, but I'm still finding old documentaries
on the Internet Archive and via eDonkey to fill the void. I've
Probably seen a few of those before too but after 10-15 years I
remember next to nothing. Currently enjoying "History Undercover:
Secret Aircraft of WWII" from 2004.

I use this to download YouTube videos, automatically without ads, that
can collected and saved appropriately for later viewing. As I recall
the "free" version allows 4 downloads per day.
The downloads are very fast. https://www.4kdownload.com/products/videodownloader-42

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Peter Jason <pj@jostle.com> wrote:

On 24 Nov 2024 16:13:27 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev
<not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:

I don't watch much YouTube, but I'm still finding old documentaries
on the Internet Archive and via eDonkey to fill the void. I've
Probably seen a few of those before too but after 10-15 years I
remember next to nothing. Currently enjoying "History Undercover:
Secret Aircraft of WWII" from 2004.

I use this to download YouTube videos, automatically without ads, that
can collected and saved appropriately for later viewing. As I recall
the "free" version allows 4 downloads per day.
The downloads are very fast. https://www.4kdownload.com/products/videodownloader-42

Oh I do download them, and usually grab lots in a batch (episodes
of TV series etc.), then work my way through watching them on my
TV. youtube-dl/yt-dlp has no per-day limit. I also browse with
"front ends" like Invidious and genyt.net. I prefer long
episode-like content to the short-attention-span nonsense that
seems to be most of the videos there.

I'm very glad that the government has now excluded YouTube from
their new plan to block social media from teens (or in practice,
introduce a compulsory tutorial in identity fraud). The downloader
tools are hard to use with videos you need to log in to watch, so
that could have killed them.

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