Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange.
But they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
On 05.05.2025 09:03 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange.
Analog landline or any kind of xDSL?
But they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
Don't they complain because of non-working internet access?
In aus.electronics Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
On 05.05.2025 09:03 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange.
Analog landline or any kind of xDSL?
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the
NBN covers. I did see a Telstra ute outside the exchange when I
went to town today. I didn't have time to stop and ask what the
story was and they were gone by the time I got back. My landline's
still not working, it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
But they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
Don't they complain because of non-working internet access?
I doubt anyone's using dial-up over the landline,
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange. Using the mobile phone I usually keep in the car for
emergencies I tried calling someone who lives locally yesterday,
outside for good reception. It went to voice mail on two attempts.
A while later they called back and said their phone hadn't got
reception where it was in their house when I'd called. I went
outside to get better reception on my end, but then it was too
windy so they couldn't hear me, so I went into the shed but the
phone dropped out, so I went out again and yelled into the phone,
and I still don't think they could hear me. I gave up.
Both of us were within line-of-sight of the phone tower. Phones
say they have signal inside the house/shed, but since the 3G
switch-off it just doesn't work anymore (although my older 4G
mobile broadband modem somehow seems to work a little better). But
they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
On 05.05.2025 18:17 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote:
On 05.05.2025 09:03 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange.
Analog landline or any kind of xDSL?
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the NBN
covers. I did see a Telstra ute outside the exchange when I went to
town today. I didn't have time to stop and ask what the story was and
they were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working,
it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
But they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
Don't they complain because of non-working internet access?
I doubt anyone's using dial-up over the landline,
At least in the US and in Russia hundred thousands of people still seem
to use that.
Are you close enough to get DSL?
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working, it's
still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
On Mon, 05 May 2025 18:17:21 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working, it's
still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
Is this "boop boop" like a busy signal except one tone loud the second noticably softer?
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
Both of us were within line-of-sight of the phone tower. Phones
say they have signal inside the house/shed, but since the 3G
switch-off it just doesn't work anymore (although my older 4G
mobile broadband modem somehow seems to work a little better). But
they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
Which mobile providers are used? Elsewhere you imply Telstra for you,
but is it also Telstra for all other parties involved?
Don't You Guys(TM) have W-Fi Calling? We're back in The Netherlands,
but also here in some indoor locations, there's (too) little signal. So
for example when we're at our daughter's house, our phones switch to
Wi-Fi Calling on her Wi-Fi. No problem. If your phone and provider
support Wi-Fi Calling, there at least would be no problem on your end.
On 05.05.2025 18:17 Uhr Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
I doubt anyone's using dial-up over the landline,
At least in the US and in Russia hundred thousands of people still
seem to use that.
Are you close enough to get DSL?
I never do any two-way streaming over my home internet like
for a phone call, and it's easy to ignore short pauses during
web page loading or downloads that would cause words to be
missed in a phone conversation. Logically my WiFi _shouldn't_
be any better since both are using 4G.
in those spots. Only dial-up was ever offered out here, even though I'm
not that far from the exchange.
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 18:17:21 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working,
it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
Is this "boop boop" like a busy signal except one tone loud the second
noticably softer?
The boops are all the same tone/volume. You get about 16 and a half
after picking up then it goes dead except for a hiss (which is the
exchange's other common failure mode).
On Tue, 06 May 2025 08:18:34 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 18:17:21 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working,
it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
Is this "boop boop" like a busy signal except one tone loud the second
noticably softer?
The boops are all the same tone/volume. You get about 16 and a half
after picking up then it goes dead except for a hiss (which is the
exchange's other common failure mode).
16 would be exchange hangup timeout, what have hel$tra said? perhaps a
call into ABC radio or, one of those tv current affair mobs
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange. Using the mobile phone I usually keep in the car for
emergencies I tried calling someone who lives locally yesterday,
outside for good reception. It went to voice mail on two attempts.
A while later they called back and said their phone hadn't got
reception where it was in their house when I'd called. I went
outside to get better reception on my end, but then it was too
windy so they couldn't hear me, so I went into the shed but the
phone dropped out, so I went out again and yelled into the phone,
and I still don't think they could hear me. I gave up.
Both of us were within line-of-sight of the phone tower. Phones
say they have signal inside the house/shed, but since the 3G
switch-off it just doesn't work anymore (although my older 4G
mobile broadband modem somehow seems to work a little better). But
they're in no hurry to fix the landlines because everyone's
supposed to be using mobile phones!
I still have a landline (running off Optus NBN). After a power failure, the internet comes back, but not the landline. So I have to call Optarse support and get them to reset at their end. Usually the cubicle drone has no idea about this, so have to ask them to get their N+1 to fix it.
On Thu, 8 May 2025, Ozix wrote:
I still have a landline (running off Optus NBN). After a power
failure, the internet comes back, but not the landline. So I have to
call Optarse support and get them to reset at their end. Usually the
cubicle drone has no idea about this, so have to ask them to get their
N+1 to fix it.
fttn or fttp?
Is the phone totally dead or any noise, do you get dtmf if you hit a
button?
Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote
Marco Moock <mm@dorfdsl.de> wrote
Computer Nerd Kev wrote
Phones just don't work anymore in rural areas.
My landline's been dead for over a week with some trouble at the
exchange.
Analog landline or any kind of xDSL?
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the
NBN covers.
The NBN covers more than just towns and cities
I doubt anyone's using dial-up over the landline, but I do have
trouble with the mobile broadband modem I use for my home internet
dropping out since the 3G switch-off, yet not half as bad as with
phone calls for some reason. Even though the mobile phones all
support Telstra's "new" 700MHz "4GX" band, which my old modem
doesn't.
Then you need to get a new one
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the NBN
covers.
The NBN covers more than just towns and cities
noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the
NBN covers.
The NBN covers more than just towns and cities
thats right, but its deemed internally as unstable for voip
Bullshit
hence why rural folks get internet from skymuster or LTE/wireless but
landline via copper still ofr phone calls,
That last is bullshit
come on roddles, you know this already.
I know you don't have a clue and that voip is fine over LTE and wireless
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2025 08:18:34 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 18:17:21 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working,
it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar
failure modes.
Is this "boop boop" like a busy signal except one tone loud the second >>>> noticably softer?
The boops are all the same tone/volume. You get about 16 and a half
after picking up then it goes dead except for a hiss (which is the
exchange's other common failure mode).
16 would be exchange hangup timeout, what have hel$tra said? perhaps a
call into ABC radio or, one of those tv current affair mobs
They finished the job yesterday and it's finally working again.
On Sun, 11 May 2025 09:35:45 +1000, noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Sun, 11 May 2025 00:27:56 +1000, Rod Speed wrote:
noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote
Rod Speed wrote
Still real analogue POTS out here beyond the towns/cities that the >>>>>> NBN covers.
The NBN covers more than just towns and cities
thats right, but its deemed internally as unstable for voip
Bullshit
hence why rural folks get internet from skymuster or LTE/wireless but
landline via copper still ofr phone calls,
That last is bullshit
come on roddles, you know this already.
I know you don't have a clue and that voip is fine over LTE and
wireless
Did I say otherwise,
We can see that you did you pathetic excuse for a bullshit artist
read above
You are the one that needs to do that
<reams of your puerile shit flushed where it belongs>
In aus.electronics Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Tue, 06 May 2025 08:18:34 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics noel <deletethis@invalid.lan> wrote:
On Mon, 05 May 2025 18:17:21 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
were gone by the time I got back. My landline's still not working, >>>>>> it's still just making the hang up "boop, boop,"
noise when you pick it up, which is one of the exchange's familiar >>>>>> failure modes.
Is this "boop boop" like a busy signal except one tone loud the
second noticably softer?
The boops are all the same tone/volume. You get about 16 and a half
after picking up then it goes dead except for a hiss (which is the
exchange's other common failure mode).
16 would be exchange hangup timeout, what have hel$tra said? perhaps a
call into ABC radio or, one of those tv current affair mobs
They finished the job yesterday and it's finally working again.
Which lasted a week - dead again today (just a hiss, not even a "boop, boop"). Which is about typical.
On Wed, 14 May 2025 18:07:45 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
They finished the job yesterday and it's finally working again.
Which lasted a week - dead again today (just a hiss, not even a "boop,
boop"). Which is about typical.
I know this is a couple weeks old, but wasnt going to interupt my third vacation for the year for being disconnected, marvellous... lots of fresh air and peace... Anyways, I gather its back now,
they should supply you with a reason as to why its ongoing,
your not by any chance on a RIM are you?
On Wed, 14 May 2025 18:07:45 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
In aus.electronics Computer Nerd Kev <not@telling.you.invalid> wrote:
They finished the job yesterday and it's finally working again.
Which lasted a week - dead again today (just a hiss, not even a "boop,
boop"). Which is about typical.
I know this is a couple weeks old, but wasnt going to interupt my third vacation for the year for being disconnected, marvellous... lots of fresh air and peace... Anyways, I gather its back now, they should supply you with a reason as to why its ongoing,
They finally sent someone out to look at the exchange yesterday, three
weeks after the second outage began. Apparantly they found the power was
off to the exchange. They said they'd called an electrician in to look
at it, and it was working again by the end of the day.
Gotta wonder if the electrician just reset a circuit breaker and went
home, and whether it was the same cause as whatever broke it earlier, or
a faulty fix for that.
But besides, three weeks to have someone drive out and say "it's dead". That's what it's become. And for mobiles they just lie and say there's
equal coverage to before when there isn't, so it seems they'll never fix that.
On Fri, 06 Jun 2025 09:07:28 +1000, Computer Nerd Kev wrote:
They finally sent someone out to look at the exchange yesterday, three
weeks after the second outage began. Apparantly they found the power was
off to the exchange. They said they'd called an electrician in to look
at it, and it was working again by the end of the day.
Gotta wonder if the electrician just reset a circuit breaker and went
home, and whether it was the same cause as whatever broke it earlier, or
a faulty fix for that.
But besides, three weeks to have someone drive out and say "it's dead".
That's what it's become. And for mobiles they just lie and say there's
equal coverage to before when there isn't, so it seems they'll never fix
that.
They know the breakers to reset, perhaps it was the RCD, techs are told reset it, if it trips right away leave and report it, old exchange,
probably old shabby wiring, but to take 3 weeks to get a sparky out there
is completely unacceptable, I'd make some noise, I know you live rural,
but you must have a local sparky, maybe he/she wasnt available - away or sick,
Cant trust AI :)
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