• Re: (old_version.exe... computer chassis, glass, no handle

    From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jun 19 23:37:33 2026
    On 6/19/2026 10:17 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    I also touched many PS/2 computers physically. They are no more now. But
    I like their metal chassis...

    A very satisfying 'thunk' from the handle of a PS/2 Model 80 falling
    back into place ...


    Did you notice that those fish-tank computer chassis usually have no
    handle to lift them?

    What if the glass was so slipper and you dropped the glassy fancy
    chassis? :)

    I can see why manufacturers love glassy computer chassis. And it must be
    black so that you cannot see them in the dark.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Jun 19 23:27:21 2026
    On Fri, 6/19/2026 11:37 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/19/2026 10:17 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    I also touched many PS/2 computers physically. They are no more now. But >>> I like their metal chassis...

    A very satisfying 'thunk' from the handle of a PS/2 Model 80 falling
    back into place ...


    Did you notice that those fish-tank computer chassis usually have no handle to lift them?

    What if the glass was so slipper and you dropped the glassy fancy chassis?ÿ :)

    I can see why manufacturers love glassy computer chassis. And it must be black so that you cannot see them in the dark.


    I often wonder what people buy for computer cases.

    It used to be, the "popular" cases were the ones for $40
    with the sharp metal edges on them. The person would show
    you all the bandages on their hands from the build, with
    a big shit-eating grin from the "only paid $40 for this".
    You know those will sell. Those were the cases that used
    to get crushed by UPS, before the case was delivered (tomato tin
    metal).

    For the boutique ones, it's hard to say which one is
    really popular.

    And you can do it this way. Not bother with computer components
    and just have the case and some fans :-) Your friends will be
    impressed by your sense of "taste".

    https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_watermark_/public/inline-images/vlcsnap-2024-06-24-12h01m08s673.jpg.webp

    ( https://gamersnexus.net/cases/best-pc-cases-2024-so-far-new-designs-round-computex )

    And for those people who are worried about dropping their case,
    you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the
    first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that
    with a decent handle.

    https://gamersnexus.net/u/styles/large_responsive_no_watermark_/public/inline-images/vlcsnap-2024-06-24-12h00m29s442.jpg.webp

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jun 20 11:45:01 2026
    On 6/20/2026 11:27 AM, Paul wrote:


    And for those people who are worried about dropping their case,
    you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the
    first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that
    with a decent handle.

    Can you use sonic sound wave to break tempered glass? I doubt any glassy computer chassis has sufficient damping. :)

    Also in terms of security and privacy, a hidden camera on the
    motherboard (disguised as a component) can watch you all day. Or maybe a really nano-microphone....



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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jun 20 09:24:25 2026
    On Fri, 6/19/2026 11:45 PM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/20/2026 11:27 AM, Paul wrote:


    And for those people who are worried about dropping their case,
    you can get one with a really crappy handle :-) I expect the
    first thing you'd be doing, is plotting how to replace that
    with a decent handle.

    Can you use sonic sound wave to break tempered glass? I doubt any glassy computer chassis has sufficient damping. :)

    Also in terms of security and privacy, a hidden camera on the motherboard (disguised as a component) can watch you all day. Or maybe a really nano-microphone....

    I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces.

    Heat would be easier to apply, followed by a splash of cold water should do it.

    The last computer case I bought, there were three options. And I
    picked the option where there were no glass panels. That's because I knew
    you'd be around with your sonic thingy, to test it :-) The metal
    case is pretty robust.

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jun 20 22:58:35 2026
    On 6/20/2026 9:24 PM, Paul wrote:

    I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces.

    Heat would be easier to apply, followed by a splash of cold water should do it.

    The last computer case I bought, there were three options. And I
    picked the option where there were no glass panels. That's because I knew you'd be around with your sonic thingy, to test it :-) The metal
    case is pretty robust.

    It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Sat Jun 20 16:27:00 2026
    On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/20/2026 9:24 PM, Paul wrote:

    I think people have reported that the glass breaks into tiny pieces.
    []
    It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.

    If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of
    glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because
    the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly
    blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Don't play "stupid" with me... I'm better at it.

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jun 21 00:07:17 2026
    On 6/20/2026 11:27 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.

    If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of
    glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because
    the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly
    blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges.

    I don't care how things break into safe pieces. Nothing breaks in a safe
    home! :)

    Do you break your dishes and cups every day? Your job breaks things?


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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jun 21 08:57:21 2026
    (only following the folklore group, if I were to suggest a move, it'd
    perhaps be to comp.misc?)

    On 2026-06-20, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    On 6/20/2026 11:27 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/6/20 15:58:35, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:

    It's home safety. You do NOT compromise.

    If it _does_ break into tiny pieces, that _will_ be safety: the sort of
    glass used in bus shelters and other similar places is safer, because
    the tiny pieces are (an approximation to) little cubes, with fairly
    blunt points, rather than long jagged pieces with sharp points/edges.

    I don't care how things break into safe pieces. Nothing breaks in a
    safe home! :)

    Do you break your dishes and cups every day? Your job breaks things?

    Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to engineering.

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jun 21 19:27:17 2026
    On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:

    Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to engineering.


    Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!

    A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jun 21 20:16:23 2026
    On 2026/6/21 12:27:17, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:

    Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to
    engineering.


    Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!

    A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.


    No, but that doesn't mean you should throw out all safety precautions.
    Just because I don't break something every day, doesn't mean I shouldn't
    take at least reasonable precautions against when an accident happens.
    What constitutes reasonable, of course, is open to each homeowner's
    opinion (though he may be liable ...); manufacturers of things that
    might be used in the home - including PC cases - err more on the
    cautious side than the average home-owner.
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    ? too popular actually to be any good.
    - Alison Graham in Radio Times 2-8 February 2013

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sun Jun 21 19:28:10 2026
    On Sun, 6/21/2026 7:27 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:

    Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to
    engineering.


    Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!

    A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.



    You've led a much-too-sheltered life, if you haven't
    been constantly making things.

    I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
    The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.

    It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
    day, I couldn't get enough breeze to do it. But the
    next day, I didn't have to run with it. I figured this is
    great, I'll have no problem getting this up in the sky.
    After a harness adjustment, away we went.

    Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
    It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.
    You're running out of field... You have to dump the kite.
    And just at that moment, the kite decides to become unstable
    and it's heading for the ground at warp velocity.
    I had to give a "giant pull" on the string at the
    last moment (I knew I was in trouble on the trajectory).
    The kite cleared a power line (11kV) by only about six inches :-)

    It was never my intention to be over the adjacent street
    with the stupid thing. It started out just fine
    over the field I was in.

    One of the spars broke on impact. The other spar is still
    in the basement back home, as a piece of scrap lumber.

    That's how we learn things. By building stuff.

    I can confidently tell you, not to do that :-)
    Scaling a kite is OK, just not that much.

    It was just my luck, a windy-enough day happens by,
    for the launch. This was spring kite-weather. If the wind
    had not been that high, I would have concluded it would
    never get off the ground. Well, it got off the ground :-)

    Paul

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 22 13:21:38 2026
    On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote:

    I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
    The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.

    It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
    .....
    Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
    It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.

    Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :)

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 22 02:52:09 2026
    On Mon, 6/22/2026 1:21 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote:

    I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
    The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.

    It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
    .....
    Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
    It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.

    Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :)


    You can check for activity, before you fly a kite.

    https://weather.gc.ca/?layers=lightning

    Paul



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  • From Carlos E. R.@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 22 10:44:50 2026
    On 2026-06-22 01:28, Paul wrote:
    On Sun, 6/21/2026 7:27 AM, Mr. Man-wai Chang wrote:
    On 6/21/2026 3:57 PM, Nuno Silva wrote:

    Now that's to home safety like "What could possibly go wrong?" is to
    engineering.


    Engineering is a job. Keep it in the workplace!!

    A home should NOT be a laboratory nor a factory.



    You've led a much-too-sheltered life, if you haven't
    been constantly making things.

    I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
    The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.

    It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
    day, I couldn't get enough breeze to do it. But the
    next day, I didn't have to run with it. I figured this is
    great, I'll have no problem getting this up in the sky.
    After a harness adjustment, away we went.

    Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
    It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.
    You're running out of field... You have to dump the kite.
    And just at that moment, the kite decides to become unstable
    and it's heading for the ground at warp velocity.
    I had to give a "giant pull" on the string at the
    last moment (I knew I was in trouble on the trajectory).
    The kite cleared a power line (11kV) by only about six inches :-)

    I have the vague recollection of seeing somewhere large kites flown by
    teams of people.


    It was never my intention to be over the adjacent street
    with the stupid thing. It started out just fine
    over the field I was in.

    One of the spars broke on impact. The other spar is still
    in the basement back home, as a piece of scrap lumber.

    That's how we learn things. By building stuff.

    I can confidently tell you, not to do that :-)
    Scaling a kite is OK, just not that much.

    It was just my luck, a windy-enough day happens by,
    for the launch. This was spring kite-weather. If the wind
    had not been that high, I would have concluded it would
    never get off the ground. Well, it got off the ground :-)

    Paul


    --
    Cheers,
    Carlos E.R.
    ES??, EU??;

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  • From Mr. Man-wai Chang@3:633/10 to All on Mon Jun 22 19:03:19 2026
    On 6/22/2026 7:28 AM, Paul wrote:

    I once built a kite, that was 12 feet high and 9 feet wide.
    The tail on the kite was 50 feet long.

    It took a 30MPH breeze, to get that airborne. The first
    .....
    Well, what do you notice when a thing is that big ?
    It's dragging you along the ground. You can't hold it back.

    Did you also discover electricity with that 12x9 kite? :)

    --

    @~@ Simplicity is Beauty! Remain silent! Drink, Blink, Stretch!
    / v \ May the Force and farces be with you! Live long and prosper!!
    /( _ )\ https://sites.google.com/site/changmw/
    ^ ^ https://github.com/changmw/changmw

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