What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
troll idiots.
One can dream.
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> posted:
What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
troll idiots.
One can dream.
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it about
the message, not the fluff.
(I'm on the fence with stuff like text-effects like bold and italics. We
can discuss hyperlinking. ;-)
Or is that too old-school?
(More importantly though: the ideal system would have to be decentralized. Usenet wouldn't survived as long as it did if it were dependent on a single provider.)
Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
SpallsHurgenson(NG) <user14325@newsgrouper.org.invalid> writes:
"Kerr-Mudd, John" <admin@127.0.0.1> posted:
What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of
intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
troll idiots.
One can dream.
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it about
the message, not the fluff.
(I'm on the fence with stuff like text-effects like bold and italics. We
can discuss hyperlinking. ;-)
Or is that too old-school?
(More importantly though: the ideal system would have to be decentralized. >> Usenet wouldn't survived as long as it did if it were dependent on a single >> provider.)
I would push back slightly on the no emoji thing, not because I feel any particular way about emoji themselves, but if you want this system to be
able to serve non English-speaking users, Unicode support would be the
best (though admittedly imperfect) tool we've currently got for that
purpose.
On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?
Emojis are still an accessibility problem. Having them handled
via UCS *should* be good from a point of view of ensuring some
consistency and well-defined meaning, that could be exploited to either
show these as text or provide descriptions somehow. But the usual
approach of cramming a bunch of stuff in a single glyph *is* a huge
downgrade compared to ASCII smileys and the like.
People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were invented.
I have some Gnus settings to convert some of the glyphs of the kind //TRANSLIT can handle to something more capable of being displayed in a latin1 terminal, I should check if that could be useful for emojis.I am interested in this functionality, if it works with emojis. Please
The best thing I have so far, is using GNU Emacs' M-x describe-char
for knowing what an emoji means.
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 00:17:14 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were
invented.
What were these <https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/kn60r/infographic_26_prehistoric_cave_symbols_used/>,
do you think?
On 2026-06-06, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?
Not allowing unicode *at all* would be a mistake, given that gives a
good solution to handle so many languages, even if considering just the
ones revolving around the latin alphabet! One could perhaps talk about limiting emoji usage, and then there's overuse of glyphs other than
emojis, like not using apostrophes (which are ASCII-compatible) and
instead using ASCII-incompatible glyphs that likely don't even have the
same meaning :-P
Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> writes:
On 2026-06-06, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Sat, 6 Jun 2026 07:07:56 -0400, The True Melissa wrote:
Verily, in article <10vvnpd$1gkrk$1@dont-email.me>, did
ldo@nz.invalid deliver unto us this message:
On Fri, 05 Jun 2026 16:47:00 GMT, SpallsHurgenson(NG) wrote:
If I can add to that: text only too. No emoji, no images. Keep it
about the message, not the fluff.
No ASCII art? Only that?s been part of Usenet since practically the
beginning ...
ASCII art can go anywhere ASCII can go. That should be fine.
Then you have to ask, why not simply allow Unicode?
Not allowing unicode *at all* would be a mistake, given that gives a
good solution to handle so many languages, even if considering just the
ones revolving around the latin alphabet! One could perhaps talk about
limiting emoji usage, and then there's overuse of glyphs other than
emojis, like not using apostrophes (which are ASCII-compatible) and
instead using ASCII-incompatible glyphs that likely don't even have the
same meaning :-P
I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too. ;)
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 00:17:14 GMT, Charlie Gibbs wrote:
People were communicating with text for centuries before emojis were invented.
What were these <https://www.reddit.com/r/linguistics/comments/kn60r/infographic_26_prehistoric_cave_symbols_used/>,
do you think?
I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too. ;)
On Fri, 5 Jun 2026 09:03:53 -0000 (UTC)
gmc@metro.cx (Koen Martens) wrote:
Nuno Silva <nunojsilva@invalid.invalid> wrote:
That besides the point that even when displaying the full thread,
Mastodon's official UIs still don't display it as a thread, with
nesting. As an example http://threadtree.xyz does this but leaves out
attachments. I guess this one goes into the "wants to imitate twitter"
bucket?
I think so, but it just makes for poor interaction imho.
Brutaldon, first I hear about that one. Something to check out!
Might even enable browsing mastodon on low-bandwidth and/or high-latency >> > connections. Most of the troubles I've had with it have been because of
the instance itself, not because of brutaldon.
Ah, it's a web front-end for regular mastodon I see now. That still
doesn't take away my major beef with mastodon: it's a bloated piece
of ruby software that guzzles resources like it's no-one's business.
Not that friendica is particularly light though. Which is why I'm
intending to give snac and gotosocial a try. They are being advertised
as light-weight, so if their user experience is anywhere near decent it
might be interesting to switch over.
[]
What's wanted is a platform with a threaded heirarchal message
system^w^w^w^w an exact clone of Usenet that's fast and has lots of intelligent traffic, that attracts well behaved folk, yet keeps out the
troll idiots.
One can dream.
, --
Bah, and indeed Humbug.
I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too. ;)
ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 16:42:40 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:
I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too. ;)
ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".
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On 2026-06-08, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 07 Jun 2026 16:42:40 +0000, Dennis Boone wrote:
I`ve seen people mess up apostrophes with plain old ASCII too. ;)
ITYM "I`ve seen people mess up apostrophe's with plain old ASCII too.".
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muphry%27s_law>
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