• Re: ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft

    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 6 21:35:44 2026
    Subject: Re: ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft and IBM organizational structures? by Raymond Chen

    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft
    and IBM organizational structures? by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    ?A colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices
    in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleague?s decision to use the TAB key,
    so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.?

    I don?t see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use
    instead.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Wed May 6 21:40:59 2026
    Subject: Re: ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft and IBM organizational structures? by Raymond Chen

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft
    and IBM organizational structures? by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    ?A colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices
    in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleague?s decision to use the TAB key,
    so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.?

    I don?t see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use
    instead.

    I doubt the veracity of the original story. The tab key was widely used
    in mainframe video terminals as "advance to next field" in the 1970s, including Burroughs.

    IBM was often in love with odd ideas *cough*JCL, CHS, et cetera, but that whole upper
    VP story smells apocryphal regardless of the source.

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  • From Dan Espen@3:633/10 to All on Thu May 7 20:58:11 2026
    Subject: Re: ?A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft and IBM organizational structures? by Raymond Chen

    scott@slp53.sl.home (Scott Lurndal) writes:

    Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
    On Wed, 6 May 2026 15:43:58 -0500, Lynn McGuire wrote:

    ƒ??A dispute over the TAB key highlights a mismatch between Microsoft
    and IBM organizational structuresƒ? by Raymond Chen
    https://devblogs.microsoft.com/oldnewthing/20260505-00/?p=112298

    ƒ??A colleague recalls that while he was assigned to the IBM offices
    in Boca Raton, Florida, there was a dispute over what key should be
    used to move from one field to another in dialog boxes. The folks at
    IBM were not happy with my colleagueƒ??s decision to use the TAB key,
    so they asked him to escalate the issue to his manager back in
    Redmond.ƒ?

    I donƒ??t see any mention of what the IBM people were proposing to use >>instead.

    I doubt the veracity of the original story. The tab key was widely used
    in mainframe video terminals as "advance to next field" in the 1970s, including
    Burroughs.

    IBM was often in love with odd ideas *cough*JCL, CHS, et cetera, but that whole upper
    VP story smells apocryphal regardless of the source.

    I'm not sure what this is about but the IBM 5250 terminal used on System
    34 had a Field Exit key. It was something like a tab key but it did a
    bit more. It moved field to field, possibly right justifying what had
    been typed, verified check digits, and optionally if hit on the last
    field on the screen, it acted like an enter key.


    --
    Dan Espen

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