• Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurit

    From Jonathan Lamothe@3:633/10 to All on Tue Apr 14 17:31:30 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> writes:

    Anonymous wrote:

    Singularity point has been reached. Once code begins writing code we are
    there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4rKVXev8k

    This PC guy is kind of a dumbshit.

    Code has been "writing code" since the early 80's. AIX, VAX/VMS, AT&T
    Unix, all "wrote code" based on operational state and runtime requirements
    on a regular basis every day.


    One could argue that we've had "code writing code" since the first
    compiler. I think the bigger issue is the tendency of LLMs to generate plausible looking nonsense that can be difficult to identify as such.

    --
    Regards,
    Jonathan Lamothe
    https://jlamothe.net

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  • From John Ames@3:633/10 to All on Tue Apr 14 14:52:04 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 16:52:06 -0400
    Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

    Singularity point has been reached. Once code begins writing code
    we are there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4rKVXev8k

    This PC guy is kind of a dumbshit.

    Code has been "writing code" since the early 80's. AIX, VAX/VMS, AT&T
    Unix, all "wrote code" based on operational state and runtime
    requirements on a regular basis every day.

    Also, to the surprise of precisely nobody who's been paying any damn
    attention to the "AI" playbook, it turns out the whole "found a million
    zillion super-complicated bugs, but they live in Canada, you wouldn't
    know them, also we totally *do* have an everything-proof-shield-proof-
    sword and a real actual wizard staff that does magic, but they're in
    the treehouse and you're not allowed up there" report is, to put it
    politely, massively overstated PR hoopla:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/anthropics-claude-mythos-isnt-a-sentient-super-hacker-its-a-sales-pitch-claims-of-thousands-of-severe-zero-days-rely-on-just-198-manual-reviews

    ...which will doubtless come as a *total* surprise to everyone who's
    spent the last three years parroting everything Dario Amodei says un- questioned, immediately forgetting about any given claim when the next
    one farts out of his mouth, and never bothering to go back and check
    whether any of his apocalyptic Real Soon Now predictions turned out to
    be ludicrous bullshit (spoiler: the answer is "very much yes.")

    Meanwhile, the money's already drying up, datacenters are behind
    schedule or not even started, the big players have already started on
    the "service gets worse" stage of enshittification, OpenAI just killed
    its most cost-intensive service mere months after announcing a billion-
    dollar deal with Disney for it, and its CFO was making uncomfortable
    noises about their prospects for an IPO (which would involve opening
    the books for public inspection) before getting the vaudeville hook.

    All very healthy and normal!

    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-ai-industry-is-lying-to-you/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-subprime-ai-crisis-is-here/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/openai-cfo-news/


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  • From Fritz Wuehler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 15 03:35:22 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    Anonymous User posted:


    Anonymous wrote:

    Singularity point has been reached. Once code begins writing code we are
    there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4rKVXev8k

    This PC guy is kind of a dumbshit.

    Code has been "writing code" since the early 80's. AIX, VAX/VMS, AT&T
    Unix, all "wrote code" based on operational state and runtime requirements
    on a regular basis every day.

    Some started when bank computers began "talking" to you over the phone using "DECtalk".

    Based on your answers a batch script with logging was written and would
    queue to complete the transactions desired.



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  • From Fritz Wuehler@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 15 07:55:08 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    John Ames posted:

    On Tue, 14 Apr 2026 16:52:06 -0400
    Anonymous User <noreply@dirge.harmsk.com> wrote:

    Singularity point has been reached. Once code begins writing code
    we are there.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_4rKVXev8k

    This PC guy is kind of a dumbshit.

    Code has been "writing code" since the early 80's. AIX, VAX/VMS, AT&T
    Unix, all "wrote code" based on operational state and runtime
    requirements on a regular basis every day.

    Also, to the surprise of precisely nobody who's been paying any damn attention to the "AI" playbook, it turns out the whole "found a million zillion super-complicated bugs, but they live in Canada, you wouldn't
    know them, also we totally *do* have an everything-proof-shield-proof-
    sword and a real actual wizard staff that does magic, but they're in
    the treehouse and you're not allowed up there" report is, to put it
    politely, massively overstated PR hoopla:

    https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-
    intelligence/anthropics-claude-mythos-isnt-a-sentient-super-hacker-its-a- sales-pitch-claims-of-thousands-of-severe-zero-days-rely-on-just-198- manual-reviews

    ...which will doubtless come as a *total* surprise to everyone who's
    spent the last three years parroting everything Dario Amodei says un- questioned, immediately forgetting about any given claim when the next
    one farts out of his mouth, and never bothering to go back and check
    whether any of his apocalyptic Real Soon Now predictions turned out to

    Meanwhile, the money's already drying up, datacenters are behind
    schedule or not even started, the big players have already started on
    the "service gets worse" stage of enshittification, OpenAI just killed
    its most cost-intensive service mere months after announcing a billion- dollar deal with Disney for it, and its CFO was making uncomfortable
    noises about their prospects for an IPO (which would involve opening
    the books for public inspection) before getting the vaudeville hook.

    All very healthy and normal!

    https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-ai-industry-is-lying-to-you/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/the-subprime-ai-crisis-is-here/ https://www.wheresyoured.at/openai-cfo-news/

    Good observations!

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  • From Bill Findlay@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 15 23:33:50 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On 14 Apr 2026, Jonathan Lamothe wrote
    (in article <87a4v52pql.fsf@posteo.de>):

    One could argue that we've had "code writing code" since the first
    compiler. I think the bigger issue is the tendency of LLMs to generate plausible looking nonsense that can be difficult to identify as such.

    Today I asked:

    why is lithium 6 a fermion

    Reply:

    Lithium-6 is classified as a fermion because it has
    an odd number of nucleons(three protons and three neutrons),
    which gives it half-integer spin.

    I then asked:

    why does lithium 6 have half-integer spin

    And got the reply:

    Lithium-6 has half-integer spin because it consists of
    an odd number of particles (3 protons and 3 neutrons),
    resulting in a net spin of 1

    --
    Bill Findlay


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 15 22:57:38 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:33:50 +0100, Bill Findlay wrote:

    why is lithium 6 a fermion

    ?Fermion? means the object has an odd wave function, which, as far as
    I can recall from undergrad physics, has nothing to do with its spin.

    The opposite of ?fermion? is ?boson?, which means it has an even wave
    function. The particles that transmit the fundamental forces (e.g.
    photons for the electromagnetic force) are bosons.

    Fermions obey the Pauli Exclusion Principle, bosons don?t. This (simplistically) means that two fermions cannot occupy the same space
    at the same time.

    All matter is made out of fermions. I suppose this is by definition,
    really; two objects that could occupy the same space at the same time
    would not be considered ?material?.

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  • From Bill Findlay@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 00:15:40 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On 15 Apr 2026, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote
    (in article <10rp552$192to$15@dont-email.me>):

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:33:50 +0100, Bill Findlay wrote:

    why is lithium 6 a fermion

    "Fermion" means the object has an odd wave function, which, as far as
    I can recall from undergrad physics, has nothing to do with its spin.

    The opposite of "fermion" is "boson", which means it has an even wave function. The particles that transmit the fundamental forces (e.g.
    photons for the electromagnetic force) are bosons.

    Fermions obey the Pauli Exclusion Principle, bosons don?t. This (simplistically) means that two fermions cannot occupy the same space
    at the same time.

    All matter is made out of fermions. I suppose this is by definition,
    really; two objects that could occupy the same space at the same time
    would not be considered "material".

    Just utterly priceless.

    --
    Bill Findlay


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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Wed Apr 15 23:20:16 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 22:57:38 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    On Wed, 15 Apr 2026 23:33:50 +0100, Bill Findlay wrote:

    why is lithium 6 a fermion

    ?Fermion? means the object has an odd wave function, which, as far
    as I can recall from undergrad physics, has nothing to do with its
    spin.

    OK, I was wrong about that spin business <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermion>. Seems the lithium-6 nucleus
    is a boson, after all. However, note this bit:

    The fermionic or bosonic behaviour of a composite particle is only
    observed when the constituent particles remain far apart. When
    they are close together, the spatial structure becomes important
    and the composite particles behave according to their constituent
    makeup.

    Which sounds counterintuitive, but that?s quantum physics for you ...

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  • From Jonathan Lamothe@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 00:08:49 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:

    However, I think that LLM-s already can do some work like
    first line helpdesk or "paper pushers" work where people
    check that on the input there are appropriate documents
    and push them for furthere processing. IIUC LLM-based
    machine translation while not perfect made substantial
    progress. There are potentially very lucrative markets
    like autonomous weapons and mass surveilance.

    And it's a *fantastic* idea, too!

    https://mashable.com/article/air-canada-forced-to-refund-after-chatbot-misinformation

    [...] there is potential to serve as
    "copyright anihilator". First, LLM-s probably can create
    non-GPL version of GPL-ed software with good testsuite.

    You say that like it's a good thing.

    Raw costs of computations seem to go down. As Deep Seek
    showed better architecture can lower amout of computations
    needed by a LLM at given quality.

    There is *no guarantee* that this will continue to be the case.

    --
    Regards,
    Jonathan Lamothe
    https://jlamothe.net

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 05:47:59 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 00:08:49 -0400, Jonathan Lamothe wrote:

    And it's a *fantastic* idea, too!

    https://mashable.com/article/air-canada-forced-to-refund-after-chatbot-misinformation

    We had a fun one here in ?? few years ago: a recipe advice bot which
    would happily accept lists of arbitrary ingredients, including
    downright dangerous and poisonous ones, and suggest tasty recipes
    using them <https://www.theregister.com/2023/08/11/supermarket_reins_in_ai_recipebot/>.

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  • From Jonathan Lamothe@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 11:34:04 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    antispam@fricas.org (Waldek Hebisch) writes:

    There is no warranty in real life. However, current
    semiconductor improvemements will continue for some time,

    What exactly are you basing this on? We're already making ICs with
    internal transistors that are only a few atoms thick. Unless we use
    some drastically different approach to computing, we're pretty close to
    hitting a wall here.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2_nm_process

    --
    Regards,
    Jonathan Lamothe
    https://jlamothe.net

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 23:14:46 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:

    But human brain seem to learn using much smaller training data.

    Also prone to believing things that aren?t true.

    Coincidence? You be the judge.

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  • From Jonathan Lamothe@3:633/10 to All on Thu Apr 16 21:23:02 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:

    On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:

    But human brain seem to learn using much smaller training data.

    Also prone to believing things that aren?t true.

    Coincidence? You be the judge.

    Are you implying LLMs aren't?

    --
    Regards,
    Jonathan Lamothe
    https://jlamothe.net

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  • From Bill Findlay@3:633/10 to All on Fri Apr 17 13:06:57 2026
    Subject: Re: BRAXMAN: The Skynet Moment: How Mythos AI Just Changed Cybersecurity Forever - And Why It Should Scare You

    On 17 Apr 2026, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote
    (in article <10rrqh6$225jt$1@dont-email.me>):

    On Thu, 16 Apr 2026 12:51:57 -0000 (UTC), Waldek Hebisch wrote:

    But human brain seem to learn using much smaller training data.

    Also prone to believing things that aren?t true.

    Ipse dixit

    --
    Bill Findlay


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