As I have mentioned before, I use slrn on Fedora linux to read USEnet.
It works pretty well except for
1) Lines longer than my TTY window (Windows-Putty-TERM=xterm) are
truncated instead of folded. It becomes a problem when reading a
post full of long paragraphs posted by someone who is posting using a
program that folds it for them on their screen as they type, but
does not insert the line breaks in the message.
On 2025-11-21, Lars Poulsen <lars@beagle-ears.com> wrote:
As I have mentioned before, I use slrn on Fedora linux to read USEnet.
It works pretty well except for
1) Lines longer than my TTY window (Windows-Putty-TERM=xterm) are
truncated instead of folded. It becomes a problem when reading a
post full of long paragraphs posted by someone who is posting using a
program that folds it for them on their screen as they type, but
does not insert the line breaks in the message.
slrn by default has the 'w' keybinding to wrap long lines in the post
you're viewing.
This thread has nothing to do with old computers, but only with old
computer USERS. But since it is related to the use of USEnet, which
is only used by people like me who are old enough to join the American Association of Retired People, it is probably OK.
As I have mentioned before, I use slrn on Fedora linux to read USEnet.
It works pretty well except for
1) Lines longer than my TTY window (Windows-Putty-TERM=xterm) are
truncated instead of folded. It becomes a problem when reading a
post full of long paragraphs posted by someone who is posting using a
program that folds it for them on their screen as they type, but
does not insert the line breaks in the message.
2) It has no way (of course!) to let me click on an embedded link;
I have to select the link my dragging the cursor on the putty
window to highlight it, then move to a browser window and paste it
into the address bar.
The second of these is probably not fixable, but I am hopeful that
there is something I can add to my .slrnrc file to do the right thing.
Alternatively, does anyone have a better suggestion for a news reader
to use, that will let me use the same .newsrc file from a linux system
and from multiple Windows systems? (Home, work, when traveling, etc.)
I like Thunderbird, but it will maintain a local .newsrc on each machine where you run it.
slrn by default has the 'w' keybinding to wrap long lines in the post
you're viewing.
Or not? It works when I use it, and I haven't messed with the
keybindings at all. Yet the help file has an uppercase 'W' and so does
my .slrnrc (which should be fully default keybinding wise). But yeah,
either 'w' or 'W'.
This thread has nothing to do with old computers, but only with old
computer USERS. But since it is related to the use of USEnet, which
is only used by people like me who are old enough to join the American Association of Retired People, it is probably OK.
As I have mentioned before, I use slrn on Fedora linux to read USEnet.
It works pretty well except for
1) Lines longer than my TTY window (Windows-Putty-TERM=xterm) are
truncated instead of folded. It becomes a problem when reading a
post full of long paragraphs posted by someone who is posting using a
program that folds it for them on their screen as they type, but
does not insert the line breaks in the message.
This thread has nothing to do with old computers, but only with old
computer USERS. But since it is related to the use of USEnet, which
is only used by people like me who are old enough to join the American >Association of Retired People, it is probably OK.
2) It has no way (of course!) to let me click on an embedded link;
I have to select the link my dragging the cursor on the putty
window to highlight it, then move to a browser window and paste it
into the address bar.
This thread has nothing to do with old computers, but only with old
computer USERS. But since it is related to the use of USEnet, which
is only used by people like me who are old enough to join the American Association of Retired People, it is probably OK.
As I have mentioned before, I use slrn on Fedora linux to read USEnet.
It works pretty well except for
1) Lines longer than my TTY window (Windows-Putty-TERM=xterm) are
truncated instead of folded. It becomes a problem when reading a
post full of long paragraphs posted by someone who is posting using a
program that folds it for them on their screen as they type, but
does not insert the line breaks in the message.
Why does your terminal fold automatically? Is this a setting?
On 2025-11-22, Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
Why does your terminal fold automatically? Is this a setting?
My terminal does not fold automatically, but the programs I access
through it mostly do.
On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 19:18:47 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
On 2025-11-22, Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
Why does your terminal fold automatically? Is this a setting?
My terminal does not fold automatically, but the programs I access
through it mostly do.
There is ?software? line wrap within the terminal driver, controlled by a >tty mode settings (which can get misled by the cursor not being where the >driver thought it was).
It will _store_ the current screen width and height in characters, but doesn't apply any semantics to those values; it simply stores them for curses/ncurses/xterm, et alia. It will not "wrap" lines, that's a
function of the terminal program (xterm, Terminal, et alia).
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 19:18:47 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
On 2025-11-22, Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
Why does your terminal fold automatically? Is this a setting?
My terminal does not fold automatically, but the programs I access
through it mostly do.
There is ?software? line wrap within the terminal driver, controlled by a
tty mode settings (which can get misled by the cursor not being where the
driver thought it was).
The terminal drive has no knowlege of cursors at all.
On 2025-11-23 17:56, Scott Lurndal wrote:
The terminal drive has no knowlege of cursors at all.
It has to know what character to blink to show the cursor is there. Or underline, or whatever is wanted.
2) It has no way (of course!) to let me click on an embedded link;
I have to select the link my dragging the cursor on the putty
window to highlight it, then move to a browser window and paste it
into the address bar.
On 2025-11-25, Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:
[The terminal driver] has to know what character to blink to show
the cursor is there. Or underline, or whatever is wanted.
That's the terminal's (or emulator like PuTTY, Terminal.app, etc)
job, not the driver's.
Lawrence =?iso-8859-13?q?D=FFOliveiro?= <ldo@nz.invalid> writes:
On Sat, 22 Nov 2025 19:18:47 -0000 (UTC), Lars Poulsen wrote:
On 2025-11-22, Peter Flass <Peter@Iron-Spring.com> wrote:
Why does your terminal fold automatically? Is this a setting?
My terminal does not fold automatically, but the programs I access
through it mostly do.
There is ?software? line wrap within the terminal driver, controlled by a
tty mode settings (which can get misled by the cursor not being where the
driver thought it was).
The terminal drive has no knowlege of cursors at all. It simply
passes through bytes from the input device to the program. In
cooked mode, it will support the line erase,
xon/xoff, and rubout/delete characters and handle lf <-> crlf
conversions if configured.
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