• Recommendations for Computing Folklore Resources?

    From cannonw@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 26 19:22:35 2025
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing
    folklore/history.

    I have already read Steven Levy's "Hackers" book, read through the
    Jargon File, BOFH (if that counts), and other bits and pieces here and
    there, always hungry to learn more as it always seems to be rife with
    amusing details.

    --wec

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 00:37:59 2025
    On 26 Oct 2025 22:40:46 GMT, Ted Nolan <tednolan> wrote:

    Kidder's _Soul Of A New Machine_, perhaps?

    In retrospect, how *not* to design a clever piece of hardware ...

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 00:45:54 2025
    On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:22:35 -0300, cannonw wrote:

    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing folklore/history.

    Here is a random selection from the urls.txt file in my ?vintage?
    downloads directory. I haven?t checked that they all still work ...

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    Info on vintage computers including downloadable manuals etc <http://www.1000bit.it/>.

    Old manuals for Apollo Domain, Be, Silicon Graphics, Convergent
    Technology, screen captures etc <http://typewritten.org/>.

    Apollo Archive, including MESS (68K Apollo emulator) sources <http://jim.rees.org/apollo-archive/>, now archived at <https://archive.org/details/apollo-archive>.

    Computer History Museum Software Preservation Group <http://www.softwarepreservation.org/>.

    ICL 1900 Series Preservation, including old documents, emulation
    software for Linux (including Raspberry ã) and Windows <http://www.icl1900.co.uk/preserve/index.html>.

    Old Apple II stuff <ftp://ftp.apple.asimov.net/pub/apple_II/>.

    NeXT file/document archive etc <http://www.nextcomputers.org/>.

    Interesting MS-DOS programs (also work with FreeDOS): <http://www.opus.co.tt/dave/index.htm>

    Links to docs and source code for Mesa, Smalltalk and other old Xerox
    stuff: <http://xeroxalto.computerhistory.org/xerox_alto_file_system_archive.html>

    Information on vintage Silicon Graphics machines, including
    maintaining and using them <http://nekochan.net/>. Also <http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/vw/> (about SGI?s NT boxes), <http://www.sgidepot.co.uk/>, <http://sgistuff.net/>. There was an SGI
    forum called nekochan.net, which disappeared abruptly <https://wiki.preterhuman.net/Nekochan.net>; preservation effort here <https://gainos.org/~elf/sgi/nekonomicon/>.

    Homebrew Cray-1 implemented on a small Xilinx board: <https://www.chrisfenton.com/homebrew-cray-1a/>.

    Mirrors of old FTP sites (e.g. ftp.cdrom.com): <https://www.mirrorservice.org/>.

    Git repos of old Unix/Linux history, source, manpages, pre-Git
    snapshots etc <https://github.com/dspinellis>.

    Repository of abandonware for various platforms: <https://www.myabandonware.com/>.

    History of PL/M and Gary Kildall?s promotion of it, with lots of links <https://www.retrotechnology.com/dri/dri_plm.html>.

    Resources for the PICK OS and history: <https://dbpedia.org/page/Pick_operating_system>.

    Information about Wang and its VS machines <https://tjunker.com/>.

    Rob Pike responds to questions on Slashdot, from 2004 Oct 18 <https://interviews.slashdot.org/story/04/10/18/1153211/rob-pike-responds>. E.g. answer to question beginning ?Given the nature of current
    operating systems and applications, do you think the idea of "one tool
    doing one job well" has been abandoned?? was ?Those days are dead and
    gone and the eulogy was delivered by Perl.?

    David Rosenthal?s blog on digital preservation
    <https://blog.dshr.org/>. Interesting entries:
    * History of window systems <https://blog.dshr.org/2021/03/history-of-window-systems.html>
    * X Window System at 40 <https://blog.dshr.org/2024/07/x-window-system-at-40.html>

    Information about tne Canon Cat (the closest to a production
    realization of Jef Raskin?s original concept for his ?Macintosh?
    project) <http://www.canoncat.net/>, and its precursor, the SwyftCard
    for the Apple II. Online emulator is also available, see article <https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/09/jef-raskins-cul-de-sac-and-the-quest-for-the-humane-computer/>.
    Article also talks about his later (never completed) ?Humane Computer?
    project.

    The Dead Supercomputer Projects list -- past vendors of
    high-performance computing
    <https://www.paralogos.com/DeadSuper/Projects.html>.

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 01:01:26 2025
    On Sun, 26 Oct 2025 19:22:35 -0300, cannonw wrote:

    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing folklore/history.

    This <https://bitsavers.trailing-edge.com/pdf/dec/_Books/> is
    (depending on your tastes) possibly a bit of a gold mine.

    The Lavington book is one that immediately jumped out at me, if only
    because I still have my paper copy that I bought years ago. In it you
    can read the story of the Lyons Teashops, and how they got into the
    computer business (for a while) mainly because their chief
    statistician wanted a better way of predicting stocking levels for
    their highly perishable goods, and there was nothing already available
    to do the job.

    Bitsavers has other stuff of course; but it has more material on DEC
    than on all other vendors put together. Even IBM comes a distant
    second.

    And here <https://www.youtube.com/@Dodoid/videos> is a guy who was
    collecting SGI gear for a while. He has compiled a history of SGI, as
    well as looking at some specific models.

    Here <https://www.youtube.com/@jpkiwigeek/videos> are some rather
    older videos, on SGI and other machines. Witness his epic, but
    unfortunately failed, attempts to start up an absolutely massive
    five-rack Onyx2 installation (5 compute nodes + 5 graphics nodes).

    And a selection of very in-depth historical videos (e.g. the history
    of the IBM PC, Sun Microsystems, the Unix wars) on the Asianometry
    channel <https://www.youtube.com/c/Asianometry/videos>.

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  • From Nuno Silva@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 01:58:09 2025
    On 2025-10-26, cannonw wrote:

    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing folklore/history.

    I have already read Steven Levy's "Hackers" book, read through the
    Jargon File, BOFH (if that counts), and other bits and pieces here and

    (Re: BOFH, have you read the one from last Friday too?)

    https://www.theregister.com/offbeat/bofh/headlines.atom

    there, always hungry to learn more as it always seems to be rife with
    amusing details.

    --wec


    Would /Coders at Work/ qualify?

    --
    Nuno Silva

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  • From Peter Flass@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 26 19:15:37 2025
    Anything by Robert L. Glass (if you can find it). I'm still looking for
    a copy of _Computing Catastrophes_.

    On 10/26/25 15:22, cannonw wrote:
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/ documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing folklore/history.

    I have already read Steven Levy's "Hackers" book, read through the
    Jargon File, BOFH (if that counts), and other bits and pieces here and there, always hungry to learn more as it always seems to be rife with amusing details.

    --wec


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  • From Dan Cross@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 10:59:52 2025
    In article <10dm6vb$9prs$1@dont-email.me>,
    cannonw <williamcannon1996@gmail.com> wrote:
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for >books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing >folklore/history.

    I have already read Steven Levy's "Hackers" book, read through the
    Jargon File, BOFH (if that counts), and other bits and pieces here and >there, always hungry to learn more as it always seems to be rife with >amusing details.

    "Computing in the Middle Ages" (Severo Ornstein) is interesting.

    "A New History of Modern Computing" (Haigh and Ceruzzi) is
    highly recommended by some folks that I hold in high regard.

    "A Few Good Men From Univac" (David Lundstrom) is really
    interesting.

    "My Adventures with Drawves" (Russell McGee) has some really
    neat stories from the mainframe perspective.

    "DEC is Dead, Long Live DEC" (Schein, DeLisi, and Kampas) is a
    good history of DEC, and in particular, how the VAX 9000 killed
    the company.

    "The Ultimate Entrepreneur" (Glenn Rifkin) is a great exposition
    on how not to run a company.

    "Life Under the Sun" (David Yen) is a good exposition of the
    history of Sun Microsystems.

    "What the Dormouse Said" (John Markoff) is a fascinating history
    of Silicon Valley and its ties to the 1960s counterculture.

    "The Idea Factory" (Jon Gertner) discusses Bell Labs, which gave
    rise to most of the innovations that led to the modern computing
    world.

    "A Quarter Century of Unix" (Peter Salus) talks about the early
    to mid history of Unix, interviewing many of the primary
    players.

    "Where Wizards Stay Up Late" (Katie Hafner) might be the best
    account of the history of the ARPANET and early Internet.

    "Dealers of Lightning" (Michael Hiltzik) talks about Xerox PARC
    and its many contributes to computing.

    "VM and the VM Community" (Lee and Melinda Varian) talks starts
    with some fascinating historical tidbits leading to the
    development of CP/67 and eventually VM/CMS.

    "Steve Jobs & the NeXT Big Thing" (Randall Stross) discusses how
    Steve Jobs couldn't make the Apple Magic work a second time (at
    least as far as building and selling computers is concerned).

    If I think of more, I'll post later.

    - Dan C.


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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 14:13:11 2025
    cannonw <williamcannon1996@gmail.com> writes:
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for >books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing >folklore/history.

    _Atanasoff_, by Clark. R. Mollenhoff


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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 14:14:21 2025
    cannonw <williamcannon1996@gmail.com> writes:
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for >books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing >folklore/history.

    _The Adolescence of P-1_, by Thomas J. Ryan.

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  • From Adam Sampson@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 14:53:12 2025
    cannonw <williamcannon1996@gmail.com> writes:

    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing folklore/history.

    In addition to those people have already recommended, I'd recommend
    Hamish Carmichael's two ICL Anthology books, which are a great
    collection of folklore from the UK computing industry:

    http://www.bitsandbytes.shedlandz.co.uk/hc_books.htm

    Along similar lines, the Computer Conservation Society's journal
    Resurrection has plenty of interesting UK articles:

    https://www.computerconservationsociety.org/resurrection.htm

    And the IEEE Annals of the History of Computing has been publishing
    since 1979, with articles covering the history of computing from all
    over the world:

    https://dl.acm.org/journal/anhc

    --
    Adam Sampson <ats@offog.org> <http://offog.org/>

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  • From Bob Eager@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 15:23:28 2025
    On Mon, 27 Oct 2025 14:53:12 +0000, Adam Sampson wrote:

    Hi, Adam!

    In addition to those people have already recommended, I'd recommend
    Hamish Carmichael's two ICL Anthology books, which are a great
    collection of folklore from the UK computing industry:

    http://www.bitsandbytes.shedlandz.co.uk/hc_books.htm

    These are very good; I have both in hardcopy. Material was being collected
    for a third (after Hamish's death) and I contributed a couple of things.

    Along similar lines, the Computer Conservation Society's journal
    Resurrection has plenty of interesting UK articles:

    https://www.computerconservationsociety.org/resurrection.htm

    Again excellent. I have many of these in hardcopy too.

    It's not much, but a few people might be interested in someanecdotes of
    mine:

    https://www.bobeager.uk/anecdotes.html

    --
    Using UNIX since v6 (1975)...

    Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
    http://www.mirrorservice.org

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  • From John Levine@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 27 17:22:46 2025
    It appears that cannonw <williamcannon1996@gmail.com> said:
    Just wondering if anybody here has any good recommendations for >books/documentaries/etc on any subject relevant to computing >folklore/history.

    There's always Ted Nelson's Computer Lib. Internet Archive has a scan of
    the later 1974 edition:

    https://openlibrary.org/works/OL4972656W/Computer_Lib_Dream_Machines?edition=key:/books/OL2390405M

    The kid facing the terminal in the picture at the bottom of page 116 is me.

    --
    Regards,
    John Levine, johnl@taugh.com, Primary Perpetrator of "The Internet for Dummies",
    Please consider the environment before reading this e-mail. https://jl.ly

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