• The Forgotten Knowledge Trapped On Floppy Disks

    From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 10 22:23:49 2025
    BBC item on archivists at Cambridge University trying to preserve
    information saved on floppy disks <https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251009-rescuing-knowledge-trapped-on-old-floppy-disks>:

    But when the library received 113 boxes of papers and mementoes
    from the office of physicist Stephen Hawking, it found itself with
    an unusual challenge. Tucked alongside the letters, photographs
    and thousands of pages relating to Hawking's work on theoretical
    physics, were items now not commonly seen in modern offices ?
    floppy disks.

    He used a variety of different floppy formats, it seems.

    The differences in disk size and software needed to access the
    Hawking material is typical of the early floppy disk era. "There
    wasn't one system that dominated the market," Talboom explains.
    "It was a bit of a wild west out there."

    ...

    At first, the durable plastic of floppy disks, popular from the
    1970s to the 1990s, may seem more secure than fragile manuscripts.
    Paper rots, ink fades and runs. Synthetic materials can last much
    longer ? that is, after all, why plastic pollution is such a
    concern. But the digital information saved inside these rigid
    cassettes is more vulnerable than you might think.

    Yes, we know ...

    Have a look at the picture of different types of floppy disks: anybody
    remember the ones in the rectangular cases? I think Amstrad used
    those. Why were they rectangular? The disks had to be round, after
    all.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 12 10:03:59 2025
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:23:49 -0000 (UTC)
    Lawrence D?Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:

    BBC item on archivists at Cambridge University trying to preserve
    information saved on floppy disks <https://www.bbc.com/future/article/20251009-rescuing-knowledge-trapped-on-old-floppy-disks>:

    But when the library received 113 boxes of papers and mementoes
    from the office of physicist Stephen Hawking, it found itself with
    an unusual challenge. Tucked alongside the letters, photographs
    and thousands of pages relating to Hawking's work on theoretical
    physics, were items now not commonly seen in modern offices ?
    floppy disks.

    He used a variety of different floppy formats, it seems.

    The differences in disk size and software needed to access the
    Hawking material is typical of the early floppy disk era. "There
    wasn't one system that dominated the market," Talboom explains.
    "It was a bit of a wild west out there."

    ...

    At first, the durable plastic of floppy disks, popular from the
    1970s to the 1990s, may seem more secure than fragile manuscripts.
    Paper rots, ink fades and runs. Synthetic materials can last much
    longer ? that is, after all, why plastic pollution is such a
    concern. But the digital information saved inside these rigid
    cassettes is more vulnerable than you might think.

    Yes, we know ...

    Have a look at the picture of different types of floppy disks: anybody remember the ones in the rectangular cases? I think Amstrad used
    those. Why were they rectangular? The disks had to be round, after
    all.

    It says 'PCW' on the thing! geez, kids today...

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  • From Lawrence D?Oliveiro@3:633/10 to All on Mon Oct 13 00:57:48 2025
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:23:49 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    BBC item on archivists at Cambridge University trying to preserve
    information saved on floppy disks ...

    Another article about the same group <https://www.tomshardware.com/pc-components/storage/cambridge-university-rescues-data-from-old-floppy-disks>,
    goes into some detail about their techniques. They don?t just stick
    the disk in a drive: they have special tools for directly sampling the
    magnetic waveform, to maximize the chance of getting a high-quality
    data recovery.

    Of course, they still have to decipher proprietary file formats, many
    of them long extinct ...

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  • From Al Kossow@3:633/10 to All on Sun Oct 12 19:49:51 2025
    On 10/12/25 5:57 PM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:23:49 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Of course, they still have to decipher proprietary file formats, many
    of them long extinct ...


    Chuck Guzis, who passed away a few months ago, was a master at doing this
    for decades.
    Unfortunately, he had no apprentices so that knowledge died with him.

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  • From Ant@3:633/10 to All on Tue Oct 14 02:30:42 2025
    Al Kossow <aek@bitsavers.org> wrote:
    On 10/12/25 5:57 PM, Lawrence D?Oliveiro wrote:
    On Fri, 10 Oct 2025 22:23:49 -0000 (UTC), I wrote:

    Of course, they still have to decipher proprietary file formats, many
    of them long extinct ...


    Chuck Guzis, who passed away a few months ago, was a master at doing this
    for decades.
    Unfortunately, he had no apprentices so that knowledge died with him.

    And no documentations? :(
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