Some of my most interesting anecdotes are from 50 years ago.
Aspects of the main CPU clock(s) on 370/145, the 158MP and the 168MP
seem interesting to me. I'll start with the 370/145 in this post;
and follow up with the larger MP systems if there's interest.
Interest was minimal in the (startling?) fact that the main 145 oscillator is immediately passed through an XOR gate. But I'll persist and mention interesting(?) facts about the clocks on the Big IBM Multiprocessors.
Nowadays, I don't think you can even buy a processor chip with lessOh, is there computer equipment in that picture somewhere?
than two CPUs so it may be hard for young folk to imagine how
grandiose the 168MP was! The first time I saw one I first noticed
the TWO L-shaped "3066 consoles." One is pictured here:
https://static.righto.com/images/ibm-360/Supercomputer_NSA-IBM360_85.jpg
Interest was minimal in the (startling?) fact that the main 145 oscillator
is immediately passed through an XOR gate. But I'll persist and mention interesting(?) facts about the clocks on the Big IBM Multiprocessors.
The 370/168 was, arguably, the Top Of The Line among IBM mainframes
in the mid-1970s. Sure, there was a 370 Model 195 but it was almost just
a gimmick: Salesmen might say "You're complaining about the $3 Million price-tag on our wonderful Model 168?
Just be thankful I'm not trying to sell you a Model 195!"
On 10/12/25 04:04, James Dow Allen wrote:
But here we speak of the 168MP -- Double the Price and Double the Fun.
Nowadays, I don't think you can even buy a processor chip with lessOh, is there computer equipment in that picture somewhere?
than two CPUs so it may be hard for young folk to imagine how
grandiose the 168MP was! The first time I saw one I first noticed
the TWO L-shaped "3066 consoles." One is pictured here:
https://static.righto.com/images/ibm-360/Supercomputer_NSA-IBM360_85.jpg
About 1978, the 370/168 was superseded by the 3032 and 3033. These were
a disappointment for anyone infatuated with blinking lights and fancy switches and dials. The console disappeared entirely except for an ordinary CRT, keyboard, light-pen and a tiny number of lights and buttons (e.g. "IPL").
This trend began a few years earlier when the fancy front-panel of
the 370/155 was replaced with a boring CRT/light-pen for the 370/158.
James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> posted:
Some of my most interesting anecdotes are from 50 years ago.
Aspects of the main CPU clock(s) on 370/145, the 158MP and the 168MP
seem interesting to me....
But there are very big differences between the 168MP and the 158MP.
Each of these MP behemoths had TWO independent clocks, one for each
of the two processors.
On the 168MP, when MP mode was selected or when memory was cross-configured one of the two oscillators was ignored. A toggle switch determined
whether it was the clock from CPU A or the clock from CPU B which was
used throughout the system. Cable delays introduced a nifty weirdness
into the clocking.
... on the 158MP *each CPU used its own oscillater*. Both machines operated at 8.69565217 MHz (115 nanoseconds) but the clocks were NOT synchronized. This presented some difficulty when one processor needed to operate
on signals from two processors whose edges had no known relationship.
If you've read this far you MIGHT be interested in an unrelated application of Murphy's Law which DID strike 158MP's and 158AP's. It was a
hardware problem but only showed up on "new" operating systems like
MVS/SE. I've written up a detailed description of this weird bug here:
https://fabpedigree.com/james/bug22.htm
On 2025-10-13, James Dow Allen <user4353@newsgrouper.org.invalid> wrote:
If you've read this far you MIGHT be interested in an unrelated application of Murphy's Law which DID strike 158MP's and 158AP's. It was a
hardware problem but only showed up on "new" operating systems like
MVS/SE. I've written up a detailed description of this weird bug here:
https://fabpedigree.com/james/bug22.htm
Fascinating reading. Keep them coming - it's a great shot in the arm
for a.f.c, which has been getting rather moribund lately.
About 1978, the 370/168 was superseded by the 3032 and 3033. These
were a disappointment for anyone infatuated with blinking lights and
fancy switches and dials. The console disappeared entirely except
for an ordinary CRT, keyboard, light-pen and a tiny number of lights
and buttons (e.g. "IPL"). This trend began a few years earlier when
the fancy front-panel of the 370/155 was replaced with a boring
CRT/light-pen for the 370/158.
(Remind me to tell an interesting anecdote about a microcode patch needed to exceed 1MB on the 370/138.)
(I once installed a 10 Megabyte 158MP for the central bank of Spain.
As far as I know, that was the ONLY 158, whether UP or MP, to go beyond 8MB.)
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