• Re: Internet Service Provision (Re: General Thoughts ...)

    From Scott Alfter@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 13 06:18:45 2025
    In article <m7nhjuF7t21U4@mid.individual.net>,
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:
    On Sat, 03 May 2025 14:46:19 -0400, Bud Frede wrote:

    I regard my current ISP as just a pipe. I don't use their mail, DNS,
    etc.

    Things are not at all competitive in my area, so I overpay for internet
    access. Luckily my employer covers the cost of my home internet these
    days, so I guess they overpay. :=)

    I'm too far from town for regular cable let alone fiber so I use Verizon >wireless but my mail is through my former dialup ISP. They dropped dialup
    a long time ago but I could retain the email for a nominal fee.

    The nice thing about Verizon is it comes out of the rabbit hole someplace >else, usually Denver so targeted ads including when I'm watching Prime
    video are for Denver. The IP has also appeared to be in Salt Lake.

    I run a SearxNG instance on a Linode VPS hosted in their Dallas datacenter.
    If there's a geographic angle that can be inferred in a search term, the
    search providers it's configured to use will do so, so I end up with Google, DuckDuckGo, etc. thinking that I'm somewhere in the Dallas area or in Texas more generally, regardless of where I'm actually located. For instance:

    https://searx.alfter.us/search?q=car+wash

    The top 10 results include two hits on Yelp for car washes in Richardson, TX (presumably a Dallas suburb, returned by DuckDuckGo) and in Dallas (returned
    by Google). If I provide the same search term to DuckDuckGo directly, it returns results for where I am.

    I suppose that if I cared enough about it, I'd move SearxNG from the VPS to
    my home server, but it doesn't matter for most of the things on which I'd
    run a search. If I'm looking for a local business, I'm more likely to use Google Maps.

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  • From Kerr-Mudd, John@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue May 13 18:44:28 2025
    :
    On 3 May 2025 21:54:06 GMT
    rbowman <bowman@montana.com> wrote:

    On Sat, 03 May 2025 14:46:19 -0400, Bud Frede wrote:

    I regard my current ISP as just a pipe. I don't use their mail, DNS,
    etc.

    Things are not at all competitive in my area, so I overpay for internet access. Luckily my employer covers the cost of my home internet these
    days, so I guess they overpay. :=)

    I'm too far from town for regular cable let alone fiber so I use Verizon wireless but my mail is through my former dialup ISP. They dropped dialup
    a long time ago but I could retain the email for a nominal fee.

    The nice thing about Verizon is it comes out of the rabbit hole someplace else, usually Denver so targeted ads including when I'm watching Prime
    video are for Denver. The IP has also appeared to be in Salt Lake.

    I'm just curious; what products do Mormons use more of :-)

    --
    Bah, and indeed Humbug.

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  • From Vir Campestris@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu May 15 00:38:41 2025
    On 03/05/2025 22:54, rbowman wrote:
    I'm too far from town for regular cable let alone fiber so I use Verizon wireless but my mail is through my former dialup ISP. They dropped dialup
    a long time ago but I could retain the email for a nominal fee.

    The nice thing about Verizon is it comes out of the rabbit hole someplace else, usually Denver so targeted ads including when I'm watching Prime
    video are for Denver. The IP has also appeared to be in Salt Lake.

    I'm in the UK, so too far won't be as far as you - but you might like
    this story.

    BT ran copper wire out to our village decades ago. I'd guess soon after WW2.

    Then ADSL came along, and they put it down the copper. It just about
    worked. VDSL didn't make it much better, 2Mb on a good day.

    Now we have fibre right to our houses.

    The fibre Just Works. No bad days. And it's gone from how fast can I
    have to how much do I want to pay!

    Andy

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    Ghandi.

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  • From Lars Poulsen@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu May 22 03:59:53 2025
    On 2025-05-14, Vir Campestris <vir.campestris@invalid.invalid> wrote:
    On 03/05/2025 22:54, rbowman wrote:
    I'm too far from town for regular cable let alone fiber so I use Verizon
    wireless but my mail is through my former dialup ISP. They dropped dialup
    a long time ago but I could retain the email for a nominal fee.

    The nice thing about Verizon is it comes out of the rabbit hole someplace
    else, usually Denver so targeted ads including when I'm watching Prime
    video are for Denver. The IP has also appeared to be in Salt Lake.

    I'm in the UK, so too far won't be as far as you - but you might like
    this story.

    BT ran copper wire out to our village decades ago. I'd guess soon after WW2.

    Then ADSL came along, and they put it down the copper. It just about
    worked. VDSL didn't make it much better, 2Mb on a good day.

    Now we have fibre right to our houses.

    The fibre Just Works. No bad days. And it's gone from how fast can I
    have to how much do I want to pay!

    I suspect that lots of praise should be lavished on your regulatory
    agency (OfTel?). Is the actual fiber installation all BT, and is the
    final company providing customer provisioning and customer service a competitive overlay?

    --
    Lars Poulsen in Santa Barbara, CA

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