The infection of Express Lanes started in Southern California and
spread northward. Now, you see N-lane freeways with empty left lane(s)
during rush times. Great for the police to zoom along on, not so great
for everyone not wanting to pay five dollar tolls (or for now, having
the money to buy an electric car). They've also bumped up the minimum
for a 'multi-user' vehicle from 2 to 3 people.
The prices have gone up every legislative session, but the toll lanes are just >as congested as ever, because the Microsofties and Amazonians making ridiculous
salaries can afford the $20 each way that they're now being charged.
On Wed, 7 May 2025 11:16:10 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
The infection of Express Lanes started in Southern California and spread
northward. Now, you see N-lane freeways with empty left lane(s)
during rush times. Great for the police to zoom along on, not so great
for everyone not wanting to pay five dollar tolls (or for now, having
the money to buy an electric car). They've also bumped up the minimum
for a 'multi-user' vehicle from 2 to 3 people.
Leading to increased sales of inflatable dummies... Can bikes use the HOV >lanes?
On Wed, 7 May 2025 11:16:10 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
The infection of Express Lanes started in Southern California and spread
northward. Now, you see N-lane freeways with empty left lane(s)
during rush times. Great for the police to zoom along on, not so great
for everyone not wanting to pay five dollar tolls (or for now, having
the money to buy an electric car). They've also bumped up the minimum
for a 'multi-user' vehicle from 2 to 3 people.
Leading to increased sales of inflatable dummies...
Can bikes use the HOV lanes?
A more interesting case was in some midwestern state where a
pregnant woman said her fetus was a person under state law, so there
were two people in the car. Don't remember how that turned out.
On Wed, 7 May 2025 11:16:10 -0700, Al Kossow wrote:
The infection of Express Lanes started in Southern California and
spread northward. Now, you see N-lane freeways with empty left lane(s)
during rush times. Great for the police to zoom along on, not so great
for everyone not wanting to pay five dollar tolls (or for now, having
the money to buy an electric car). They've also bumped up the minimum
for a 'multi-user' vehicle from 2 to 3 people.
Leading to increased sales of inflatable dummies... Can bikes use the
HOV lanes?
Here in the mysterious east there are HOV lanes which are free
but you need at least two or three people in the vehicle.
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
Here in the mysterious east there are HOV lanes which are free
but you need at least two or three people in the vehicle.
On the DC to VA I-95 section, there are such. These are often
called "slug lanes" and there are informally designated slug
locations to wait for a car needing passengers to meet up with
them.
The biggest slug route start/end point is the Pentagon. One
southern end is some parking lot ~30 minutes+ in Occoquan but
others exist.
In <vvqmmh$bk4$1@reader1.panix.com> David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> writes:
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
Here in the mysterious east there are HOV lanes which are free
but you need at least two or three people in the vehicle.
On the DC to VA I-95 section, there are such. These are often
called "slug lanes" and there are informally designated slug
locations to wait for a car needing passengers to meet up with
them.
The biggest slug route start/end point is the Pentagon. One
southern end is some parking lot ~30 minutes+ in Occoquan but
others exist.
Until a decade or so ago the George Washington Bridge had
a hefty discount if you had 3 or more people in your car.
So... potential passengers would hang out at bus stops
near the bridge. Drivers would pick them up, thus getting
the lower rate and.. the passengers would pay less (or
even nothing...) compared to the bus crossing.
So the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
On 2025-05-11 19:33, danny burstein wrote:
So the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
On 2025-05-11 19:33, danny burstein wrote:
So the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
On the DC to VA I-95 section, there are such. These are often
called "slug lanes" and there are informally designated slug
locations to wait for a car needing passengers to meet up with
them.
On Sun, 11 May 2025 21:19:39 +0200, Carlos E.R. wrote:
On 2025-05-11 19:33, danny burstein wrote:
So the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
The Port Authority of NY and NJ owns and operates
the George Washington Bridge which crosses the Hudson
River between Fort Lee, NJ, and Manhattan.
The PANYNJ has its own highly paid police force (note
tehy also run the three major airports). Why did
the cops arrest these folk? Quite likely to get
easy, pensionable, overtime...
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
Here in the mysterious east there are HOV lanes which are free
but you need at least two or three people in the vehicle.
On the DC to VA I-95 section, there are such. These are often
called "slug lanes" and there are informally designated slug
locations to wait for a car needing passengers to meet up with
them.
On 2025-05-11 19:33, danny burstein wrote:
In <vvqmmh$bk4$1@reader1.panix.com> David Lesher <wb8foz@panix.com> writes: >>
John Levine <johnl@taugh.com> writes:
Here in the mysterious east there are HOV lanes which are free
but you need at least two or three people in the vehicle.
On the DC to VA I-95 section, there are such. These are often
called "slug lanes" and there are informally designated slug
locations to wait for a car needing passengers to meet up with
them.
The biggest slug route start/end point is the Pentagon. One
southern end is some parking lot ~30 minutes+ in Occoquan but
others exist.
Until a decade or so ago the George Washington Bridge had
a hefty discount if you had 3 or more people in your car.
So... potential passengers would hang out at bus stops
near the bridge. Drivers would pick them up, thus getting
the lower rate and.. the passengers would pay less (or
even nothing...) compared to the bus crossing.
So the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
The PANYNJ has its own highly paid police force (noteSo the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
tehy also run the three major airports). Why did
the cops arrest these folk? Quite likely to get
easy, pensionable, overtime...
But they must claim some law is being broken.
According to Carlos E.R. <robin_listas@es.invalid>:
The PANYNJ has its own highly paid police force (noteSo the Port Authority Police started arresting them....
Wow. Why? :-o
tehy also run the three major airports). Why did
the cops arrest these folk? Quite likely to get
easy, pensionable, overtime...
But they must claim some law is being broken.
Good question. Hitchhiking? Loitering?
39:4-59. Begging rides prohibited
No person shall stand in a highway for the purpose of or while
soliciting a ride from the operator of any vehicle other than an
omnibus or a street car.
I presume highway means the right of way, not just the travel lanes.
https://law.justia.com/codes/new-jersey/2013/title-39/section-39-4-59/
Ah, interesting, you have a law against Hitchhiking, calling it "begging
a ride".
Maybe they can beg a ride at a gas/coffee stop?
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