• R.I.P. Thomas Kurtz

    From John Ames@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 05:49:11 2024
    Someone on the cctalk mailing list shared this - the co-creator of
    BASIC has left the building:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/thomas-kurtz-co-creator-of-computer-language-basic-dies-at-96

    Rest in peace, sir, your contribution kickstarted more than a few of
    our paths in life.


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  • From Bob Eager@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 10:07:19 2024
    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:49:11 -0800, John Ames wrote:

    Someone on the cctalk mailing list shared this - the co-creator of BASIC
    has left the building:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/thomas-kurtz-co-
    creator-of-computer-language-basic-dies-at-96

    Rest in peace, sir, your contribution kickstarted more than a few of our paths in life.

    I learned BASIC (second programming language) with the Kemeny and Kurtz
    book.


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  • From David LaRue@3:633/280.2 to All on Sat Nov 16 13:29:35 2024
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote in news:lpq2h7F8f6U13
    @mid.individual.net:

    On Fri, 15 Nov 2024 10:49:11 -0800, John Ames wrote:

    Someone on the cctalk mailing list shared this - the co-creator of BASIC
    has left the building:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/thomas-kurtz-co-
    creator-of-computer-language-basic-dies-at-96

    Rest in peace, sir, your contribution kickstarted more than a few of our
    paths in life.

    I learned BASIC (second programming language) with the Kemeny and Kurtz book.

    I got interested in programming when I found a Saturday morning TV show for
    a college that had an hour long show with a whiteboard computer and taught
    the concepts of how to understand a hypothetical instruction set for a
    small computer. It was likely for a college in the Chicago, IL, area. It
    was on at 9:00AM on Saturday mornings on WGN for a while. I was barely in school at the time and loved how simple the teacher made the hypothetical computer do things as he taught the student how to arrange a problem into components and assign machine instructions to accomplish a task.

    Many years later my high school acquired a TTY and Modem connection to a
    time share BASIC system hosted on an HP 2000/A mini. The TTY was a 110
    baud with tape punch and reader. The next semester the school upgraded to
    two rooms with one terminal each of 300 baud LA-36 Decwriter Terminals. I monopolized the terminal in the math center year round for several years.

    My senior year of high school a local Women-only Catholic University, Clark College, allowed men, including students and adults to take courses. My parents wanted me to have English courses but a friend and I opted for
    taking FORTRAN 101. The teacher, forgive me I only recall her first name,
    had worked with Dr. Kurtz on the team that created BASIC. She had
    wonderful insights to the development of the language.

    Later at Iowa State University, Ames, IA, a ccomputer engineering teacher explained his participation of designing the first IBM/360 and its machine language and hardware.

    I really enjoy teachers that digress from a topic and explain how things
    were created. There was always the student that would interupt after a few minutes and ask: is this going to be on the test? Many of us would
    encourage the teachers to continue long after the class is over. They had
    so much to teach to those that would listen.

    Learn all you can in your life.

    A big "Thank You!" to creators and teachers everywhere that have the gift
    to make their expertise relevant to the class.

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  • From Scott Lurndal@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Nov 17 02:17:03 2024
    Reply-To: slp53@pacbell.net

    David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> writes:
    Bob Eager <news0009@eager.cx> wrote in news:lpq2h7F8f6U13 >@mid.individual.net:


    Later at Iowa State University, Ames, IA, a ccomputer engineering teacher >explained his participation of designing the first IBM/360 and its machine >language and hardware.

    When I was there, Dr. Atanasoff would visit periodically and speak to
    the computer science club.


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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/280.2 to All on Sun Nov 17 07:30:50 2024
    On 2024-11-15 19:49, John Ames wrote:
    Someone on the cctalk mailing list shared this - the co-creator of
    BASIC has left the building:

    https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2024-11-14/thomas-kurtz-co-creator-of-computer-language-basic-dies-at-96

    Rest in peace, sir, your contribution kickstarted more than a few of
    our paths in life.

    True. I don't remember his name, but I certainly started with Basic,
    although I did not have much access to a computer at the time, and when
    I finally did it was Pascal what got my interest. But Basic has crossed
    my path in life several times.

    I worked in the 90's for a small company that mainly did test beds for
    motors. They were what we call here Industrial Engineers, and the
    software they created was done in Basic. They knew mechanics, they
    learned a bit of programming, and they had a good idea of what computers
    could do for their own engineering field. They were pioneers. We owe a
    lot to them.

    But ow, that software was difficult to maintain :-D


    I worked for some time with LabWindows. I don't remember the version (3 something, perhaps). The thing is, you could write the program in Basic
    or C, and the program could translate from one to another (using a
    subset of the language, I suppose). The program I was given was written
    in basic, and I changed it to C in order to add features and speed.


    Some may remember a circuit analysis software called Microcaps II. It
    was nice, but it could crash in the middle of some analysis. I gleaned
    that it was written in Basic and then compiled. But the compiler did not verify all the variables, and could try to run something stupid that an interpreter doesn't see till run time. With the interpreter you can edit
    the variable and continue running, no harm done, but with the compiled versions you can not.

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    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Sarr Blumson@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 21 13:50:16 2024
    David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
    My senior year of high school a local Women-only Catholic University, Clark College, allowed men, including students and adults to take courses. My parents wanted me to have English courses but a friend and I opted for taking FORTRAN 101. The teacher, forgive me I only recall her first name, had worked with Dr. Kurtz on the team that created BASIC. She had
    wonderful insights to the development of the language.

    What was her name? I was there and I'm trying to figure out who it was. There weren't many women around at Dartmouth in 1964.

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  • From David LaRue@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Nov 21 18:45:14 2024
    Sarr Blumson <sarr@sdf.org> wrote in news:vhm758$c0q2$1@dont-email.me:

    David LaRue <huey.dll@tampabay.rr.com> wrote:
    My senior year of high school a local Women-only Catholic University,
    Clark College, allowed men, including students and adults to take
    courses. My parents wanted me to have English courses but a friend and
    I opted for taking FORTRAN 101. The teacher, forgive me I only recall
    her first name, had worked with Dr. Kurtz on the team that created
    BASIC. She had wonderful insights to the development of the language.

    What was her name? I was there and I'm trying to figure out who it was.
    There weren't many women around at Dartmouth in 1964.

    Hi Sarr,

    The only name I've recalled thus far is Sister Mary Kenneth Keller.
    However, I think it was the other Comp Sci teacher that had that story.
    IIRC, the teacher with that story was tall and thin. Both teachers were terrific. Both had Ph. D.s by the time I met them.

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