• Re: PSA: What is voidtools Everything and is it any good?

    From Hank Rogers@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 5 19:11:01 2026
    Maria Sophia wrote on 11/5/2026 12:35 AM:
    PSA: What is voidtools Everything and is it any good?
    I generally don't search, but I ran into this & wondered if it's any good.

    https://www.voidtools.com/faq/#what_is_everything
    "Everything" is a search engine that locates files and folders
    by filename instantly for Windows.
    Unlike Windows search "Everything" initially displays every file
    and folder on your computer (hence the name "Everything").
    You type in a search filter to limit what files and folders
    are displayed."
    https://www.voidtools.com/downloads/
    Download Portable ZIP 64-bit https://www.voidtools.com/Everything-1.4.1.1032.x64.zip
    Name: Everything-1.4.1.1032.x64.zip
    Size: 1906504 bytes (1861 KiB)
    SHA256: 698DF475EC44E638F66F1B6A32D28FEA613CEC78D3B6310E6ABE53431EEB940C

    Everything parses the MFT records once at startup (takes maybe 2?V5 seconds on a modern drive). After that, the search is purely RAM-bound.

    It's matching against strings held in memory, not hitting the disk.
    That's why results appear "as we type".

    What it does NOT index by default:
    a. File contents (unless we enable content indexing)
    b. Files on non-NTFS volumes (FAT32/exFAT require crawling)
    c. Deleted or hidden system objects (unless we enable them)

    Name: everything.exe
    Size: 2272424 bytes (2219 KiB)
    SHA256: F191F756996A14A11E5445FA7103D302EFD510CF2FBF920E6C0C8ED51D512E36

    Name: Everything.lng
    Size: 1033107 bytes (1008 KiB)
    SHA256: 84E0AE09A9E268424CE85A85135C704C534FF60F92E150413B9DF05A88979BE7

    To test it, I ran it.
    I have 1,722,821 "objects" on Windows 10. Is that a lot?

    It's faster than superman.

    What's your experience with it?


    You tell us Arlen. Did it add value for you?

    Maybe you could compose a full tutorial on it?



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  • From Lumberdog@3:633/10 to All on Thu Nov 5 22:59:59 2026
    On 11/5/26 17:11, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Maria Sophia wrote on 11/5/2026 12:35 AM:


    ÿ "Everything" is a search engine that locates files and folders
    ÿÿ by filename instantly for Windows.

    I have 1,722,821 "objects" on Windows 10. Is that a lot?

    It's faster than superman.

    What's your experience with it?


    You tell us Arlen.ÿ Did it add value for you?

    Maybe you could compose a full tutorial on it?

    And I think he should share that list of 1,722,821 "objects" with us.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Nov 6 03:58:33 2026
    On Fri, 11/6/2026 1:59 AM, Lumberdog wrote:
    On 11/5/26 17:11, Hank Rogers wrote:
    Maria Sophia wrote on 11/5/2026 12:35 AM:


    ÿ "Everything" is a search engine that locates files and folders
    ÿÿ by filename instantly for Windows.

    I have 1,722,821 "objects" on Windows 10. Is that a lot?

    It's faster than superman.

    What's your experience with it?


    You tell us Arlen.ÿ Did it add value for you?

    Maybe you could compose a full tutorial on it?

    And I think he should share that list of 1,722,821 "objects" with us.

    They're all Python scripts.

    Just for a quick comparison...

    C: 391,327 (has a few VMs)
    H: 461,961 (has Visual Studio Community edition)
    S: 10,316 bigger files
    P: 191 bigger still files

    I'm going to have to start writing some Python scripts
    to catch up. That's not nearly enough files.

    *******

    I have a couple implementation demos of findnextfile. This one
    can list a million files per second (on my RAMDrive).

    https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/win32/fileio/listing-the-files-in-a-directory

    Whereas this one displays an absolute path, and runs at 1/3rd the rate.
    Just the execution of that number of printf statements, erodes the speed. That's why, if you want to win some races, you have to reduce the usage
    of printf.

    https://rosettacode.org/wiki/Walk_a_directory/Recursively#C

    I don't think the code I've written, to parse the $MFT goes nearly
    that fast. Neither does the nfi.exe that Microsoft made, read the $MFT that fast.

    # If you need some source code to inform your NTFS $MFT parser.
    # Not a complete implementation, so you still have work to do.

    https://handmade.network/forums/articles/t/7002-tutorial_parsing_the_mft

    the findnextfile code is one kick-ass piece of code in the Microsoft library. It seems to be (functionally) reading the $MFT at 4GB/sec (and it only selectively
    examines what it is hoovering in). I can know that, because I have
    a $MFT here that is over 60GB in size, for test :-) That's a pathological
    case, which is both good and bad. For example, using File Explorer (oink!)
    to count the files in the test object, that takes *two hours*
    on the RAMDrive. How you interface to your storage on the machine,
    there is quite a spread on performance.

    If I need real performance, I use TMPFS on Linux. Which is not good
    for long term usage (I would expect fragmentation slows it down as
    time passes), but if you want to do drag race runs, it's pretty good
    for those. When you run a Linux LiveUSB, half the RAM on the machine
    is set aside for a RAMdrive. The /tmp running that way, is hosted
    on RAM, and then you can do your benchmark run there.

    *******

    What slows down Everything.exe, is... progress.

    When the first release came out, I suspect it was just processing
    the $MFT and not gathering any details like "dates" for files.
    The $MFT phase might only take it a few seconds (much less than
    my parser).

    But when it wants to add dates to the database or file it is generating,
    that takes a stat() type process per file, and those are more expensive.
    It might take 15-20 seconds to backfill by doing that. So when the
    developer at Voidtools added the additional fields, that spoiled the
    really speedy first implementation.

    This is how you get Everything to make you a text file.

    everything.exe -create-filelist every_c.txt "C:"

    And that will seem to come back almost right away when
    your run it. Part of the run is in the background.
    You have to "monitor" the every_c.txt file and watch
    it until it stops growing, to determine the process is
    complete.

    Paul

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