• WordCraft to replace Microsoft Word?

    From MegaNZ@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 03:50:59 2026
    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these
    links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and
    nothing is stopping it.




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  • From croy@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 20:45:29 2026
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ <MegaNZ@newsgroups.com> wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these >links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and >nothing is stopping it.

    Wouldn't design patents come into play here?

    --
    croy

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  • From JJ@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 11:45:01 2026
    On Thu, 22 Oct 2026 20:45:29 -0700, croy wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ <MegaNZ@newsgroups.com> wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has >>been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use. >>
    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these >>links:
    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>
    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and >>nothing is stopping it.

    Wouldn't design patents come into play here?

    Slop first, think later. Or just don't think.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 00:59:15 2026
    On Thu, 10/22/2026 10:50 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and nothing is stopping it.

    I tried that some days ago, and there was no Ribbon.

    I was expecting to see something that looked "threatening", but
    concluded from a very cursory examination that there was
    nothing there at the moment. It looked like a competitor for Notepad.

    That will change with time... or until the designer runs out of tokens :-)

    Note that, when you select one of their portable installs
    instead of one of the other types, the contents of the package
    may differ. That's what I saw with pdfcraft, which I looked at.
    To get OCR working in pdfcraft required downloading two files
    for OCRS, OCRS being the existing OCR code for the purpose
    (something newer than Tesseract).

    I wasn't really "looking for a replacement", I just wanted a
    quick check of "how much of a threat is this" and the answer
    is that this is just a marketing campaign.

    Some care is being taken, to avoid a trip to court on any notion
    of "Software Patents", which is likely to impede the ability
    to "make exact copies of anything". That's why I call this
    a marketing campaign, rather than the ideas or concepts the
    author of it makes.

    I myself make programs with LLM-AI, little hobby programs. From not-the-best LLM-AI.
    What I've seen so far, is not putting anyone out of a job. If a person knows how
    to construct a harness, and they have access to a million dollars worth of tokens,
    I think they could make a good stab at it. Any kind of "feedback system", with closed loop control and a multitude of LLM-Ai instances, that makes up for the "missing dimension" that a single LLM-AI possesses.

    As far as doing an "in-your-face" campaign, this is like taunting
    the vehicle full of Disney lawyers. There is bound to be the smell
    of expensive cologne outside your domicile, if you attempt to make
    exact copies of an application. Even if the lawyers don't have good
    cases for court, just the number of cases raised will drain
    your supply of your own defense lawyer funds. And that is not
    happening in this case. I think it's just a bunch of buttons
    and an Electron engine, for the interface. Notice that, if you
    move your mouse over the face of these applications, you might
    see all the CPU cores go to 100%. And that's not a good look for
    software, whatever the hell it is doing when that happens. I'm going
    to pretend that is not a bitcoin miner :-)

    By all means, look at it. See what all the fuss is about. This does not
    mean some city in Germany is going to be using nothing but these for
    city use.

    Since the LLM-AI does make mistakes, in some companies the bottleneck
    to production is the "code review" stage of getting the LLM-AI to do things. There can be mistakes of omission, in any dimension you attempt to test.
    Like, imagine if the Edit menu had Copy but no Paste. As a reviewer, you
    have to know the thing you're duplicating well enough, to notice that
    Paste is an important function and needs to be added. There can be a
    zillion things that could go missing, and if you're lucky... maybe
    one of your new customers will file a bug report and close the loop.

    Paul



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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 07:40:36 2026
    On 23/10/2026 in message <g3ACS.7$4ON1.0@fx09.iad> MegaNZ wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these >links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and
    nothing is stopping it.

    If it does away with the moronic "Ribbon" I'll give it a try.

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home.
    (Ken Olson, president Digital Equipment, 1977)

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 04:16:29 2026
    On Fri, 10/23/2026 3:40 AM, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 23/10/2026 in message <g3ACS.7$4ON1.0@fx09.iad> MegaNZ wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use. >>
    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these
    links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and
    nothing is stopping it.

    If it does away with the moronic "Ribbon" I'll give it a try.


    The product does not visually seem to be intended to annoy any lawyers.
    How the development will progress, is pretty academic at this point.

    If you test it, pop up Task Manager, and see if when your mouse
    cursor travels over the WordCraft window, all the cores on your CPU rail.
    I noticed a bit of high CPU, which may be related to the Electron (Chromium) engine and say something like the usage of map(). Why it needs to do that
    on all cores, I don't get why that would be necessary. I have seen what
    might be OpenGL activity that seemed to be multithreaded, when it was
    emulated. There *might* be a difference between how it behaves
    in a VM (where I tested it), versus testing on a physical OS install.
    Testing in a VM is not "bulletproof", and I'm making no such claim
    by telling you I did it in a VM -- it was just for cleanliness (not
    adding to the swamp already on my C: drive).

    Paul

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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 16:27:32 2026
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    I'm happy with LibreOffice.

    --
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    - Julius Caesar

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  • From Stan Brown@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 10:17:59 2026
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ wrote:
    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    Am I the only one who wonders what malware might be included in these reverse-engineered versions, or where our documents might be sent
    without our knowledge?

    --
    "The power of accurate observation is frequently called cynicism by
    those who don't have it." --George Bernard Shaw

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 15:47:35 2026
    On Fri, 10/23/2026 1:17 PM, Stan Brown wrote:
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ wrote:
    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use. >>
    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    Am I the only one who wonders what malware might be included in these reverse-engineered versions, or where our documents might be sent
    without our knowledge?


    Via supply-chain shenanigans, that could happen to *anything* you have
    acquired from outside your box. Even your Windows Updates could arrive
    some day, malware in hand, if Microsoft "loses the keys to the castle".
    Based on the things broken into recently, there is really no longer
    a limit on where exploits can come from.

    Take as an example, the people yesterday, who made egregiously bad certs
    using a key of "4". There were a lot of jokes where the idiots doing
    this, must have read this XKCD first. Until those were revoked, this
    would allow impersonation of web sites while https was being used.

    https://xkcd.com/221/

    You would immediately scan the item on virustotal.com and check for "reputational" detections. The reputable AV products, won't throw
    one of those, while the gutless products, can and do put up a
    detection (of no value to you).

    I quite frequently scan things of dubious provenance, and for some
    sources, it's a definite "hands-off barge-pole" response. If you check
    one of my browsers, there's a path worn in it from virustotal scanning.
    As I also use that for characterization (what kind of executable is this).

    So lets run one and see what it says. I use the SHA256 and look them up
    that way. If the item has already been scanned, you don't have to upload
    the file again, and a simple index into the table with SHA256 number
    is sufficient.

    Name: pdfcraft-0.4.0-windows-x64-portable.zip
    Size: 54,951,540 bytes (52 MiB)
    SHA256: 6BD2F7740708498CD8919007118C38CA86079963AE6407A08E2016D206351E98

    And this is the scan result.

    https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/6bd2f7740708498cd8919007118c38ca86079963ae6407a08e2016d206351e98

    Virustotal "works better" if you remove the ZIP layer first.
    If I unpack that, SHA256 it, and run that, sometimes I get
    more details that I need. Since it's a portable one, eventually you
    get to a folder full of files, allowing individual files to be scanned
    (which is going a bit too far).

    Again, not a guarantee of anything, but at least you did a bit of checking.

    Paul


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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 15:50:21 2026
    On Fri, 10/23/2026 1:55 PM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Stan Brown wrote:

    Am I the only one who wonders what malware might be included in these
    reverse-engineered versions, or where our documents might be sent
    without our knowledge?

    No, I watched a video where someone inspected the Mac version of (I think) PdfCraft
    and found no tracking, no up/downloads, no listening ports, in fact nothing dubious at all ...


    As far as I'm concerned, this is a marketing campaign, and
    serves nothing other than an (eventual) commercial purpose.

    It's not going to do, what it claims to do. It's boxed in by
    lawyers, and the results will be what you would expect.

    Paul

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  • From Steve Hayes@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 01:43:01 2026
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 16:27:32 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use. >>
    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    I'm happy with LibreOffice.

    But LibeOffice no longer has 32-bit versions.


    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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  • From MegaNZ@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 00:52:46 2026
  • From Peter Jason@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 11:32:29 2026
    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 03:50:59 +0100, MegaNZ <MegaNZ@newsgroups.com>
    wrote:

    Vibe Chap has released another app called WordCraft. Apparently, it has
    been designed to rival Microsoft Word in terms of features and ease of use.

    https://getartcraft.com/apps/wordcraft

    A portable version is also available (both 32-bit and 64-bit) via these >links:

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x64-portable.zip>

    <https://github.com/storytold/wordcraft/releases/download/v0.8.0/wordcraft-0.8.0-windows-x86-portable.zip>

    The AI seems to be making lots of damage to big tech corporations and >nothing is stopping it.


    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities. We use Word
    for labels.

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  • From MegaNZ@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 03:11:51 2026
    On 24/10/2026 01:32, Peter Jason wrote:
    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities. We use Word
    for labels.


    Try DesignCraft.

    <https://getartcraft.com/apps/designcraft>

    Scroll down the page and you can download portable versions.






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  • From sticks@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 21:41:18 2026
    On 10/23/2026 9:11 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    On 24/10/2026 01:32, Peter Jason wrote:
    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities. We use Word
    for labels.


    Try DesignCraft.

    <https://getshit.com/apps/designcraft>

    Scroll down the page and you can download portable versions.

    How ridiculous. You think people in business want all this crap?



    --
    Science Doesn?t Support Darwin. Scientists Do


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  • From MegaNZ@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 04:48:51 2026
    On 24/10/2026 03:41, sticks wrote:
    On 10/23/2026 9:11 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    On 24/10/2026 01:32, Peter Jason wrote:
    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities.˙ We use Word
    for labels.


    Try DesignCraft.

    <https://getartcraft.com/apps/designcraft>

    Scroll down the page and you can download portable versions.

    You think people in business want all this crap?




    YES.




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  • From s|b@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 15:19:38 2026
    On Sat, 24 Oct 2026 01:43:01 +0200, Steve Hayes wrote:

    On Fri, 23 Oct 2026 16:27:32 +0200, "s|b" <me@privacy.invalid> wrote:

    I'm happy with LibreOffice.

    But LibeOffice no longer has 32-bit versions.

    My guess is that this won't be a problem for a majority of users.

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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 11:37:52 2026
    On Fri, 10/23/2026 10:11 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    On 24/10/2026 01:32, Peter Jason wrote:
    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities. We use Word
    for labels.


    Try DesignCraft.

    <https://getartcraft.com/apps/designcraft>

    Scroll down the page and you can download portable versions.

    Name: designcraft-0.9.0-windows-x64-portable.zip
    Size: 81,291,016 bytes (77 MiB)
    SHA256: E051BC96903B1066A074FEECD816A2B2C0D40873FD6BB1B3DFF5C0E8FCA31017

    https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/e051bc96903b1066a074feecd816a2b2c0d40873fd6bb1b3dff5c0e8fca31017

    Now, unzip and repeat the scan.

    168 MB (176,408,746 bytes)
    9 Files, 0 Folders

    Name: designcraft.exe
    Size: 101,442,424 bytes (96 MiB)
    SHA256: F9F561481594623624170F3A6920DF053CA40F847846BA3274C6939727F33CF1

    https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/f9f561481594623624170f3a6920df053ca40f847846ba3274c6939727f33cf1

    Name: designcraft-cli.exe
    Size: 74,914,680 bytes (71 MiB)
    SHA256: 36E2A22FAAEA744606C560A4C0719A7DD3E61D813DEA5E362FD1C2A245152792

    https://www.virustotal.com/gui/file/36e2a22faaea744606c560a4c0719a7dd3e61d813dea5e362fd1c2a245152792

    Clean, so far.

    *******

    This is what it looks like, running.

    [Picture] designcraft-indesign-0-9-Oct23-2026.png

    https://imgur.com/a/LwN5JYo

    https://postimg.cc/wypJCh0Q
    https://i.postimg.cc/PxL48yD9/designcraft-indesign-0-9-Oct23-2026.png

    It has the usual behavior, where moving the mouse around the
    window surface, leads to activity on all four cores of the VM CPU.

    The left sidebar seems to have the usual collection of icons
    for various operations. I've never seen Adobe InDesign in person
    so I wouldn't know what to do with it particularly.

    https://www.howtogeek.com/why-microsoft-publisher-is-officially-ending-what-to-use-instead/

    "Microsoft Publisher, the king of the church bake-sale flyer, <=== functional description
    is officially retiring in October 2026."

    "On October 13, 2026, Microsoft is pulling the plug entirely for Microsoft 365 subscribers.
    In other words, the app will be removed entirely from the Microsoft 365 suite. According
    to Microsoft's official support documentation, subscribers will "no longer be able to
    open or edit Publisher files" using the app once that date hits."

    Interesting.

    OK, I got a Publisher sample file here. A .pub and a .pdf of it.

    https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=11507

    https://bugs.scribus.net/file_download.php?file_id=6190&type=bug
    https://bugs.scribus.net/file_download.php?file_id=6193&type=bug

    Name: page pr‚sentation.pub
    Size: 182,272 bytes (178 KiB)
    SHA256: 0F9B9F54FA34EB5AC6F977397EEA0F9A0A8D73D75A4735FBB93474327A0BD02A

    Name: page_20pr_C3_A9sentation.pdf
    Size: 150985 bytes (147 KiB)
    SHA256: CC80968E3A9F1ED2B79BF69ED8D8A46C8638C55696CC9D0C6312E53E02A9D567

    This is what DesignCraft says:

    "Can't Open the File

    page pr‚sentation.pub

    invalid parameters for 'file.open': C:\Users\Bullwinkle\Downloads\page pr‚sentation.pub: not
    a DesignCraft or IDML file
    "

    so it's not going to rescue a .pub collection a person owns.

    I don't recommend examining this program, based on what I'm seeing
    in Task Manager. At times the program becomes unresponsive, the
    CPU usage is that heavy. The previous evidence (on PDFcraft) is
    it was using Electron (a Chrome Engine, similar in concept to
    Webview2 in Windows), but why the CPU usage has to be that heavy
    when moving the mouse, that's a mystery. If manipulating a map()
    construct, it should poll the mouse and rail on one core, as an
    old-style behavior for such things. The only thing that would
    normally rail on four cores, is an OpenGL emulation, and not
    all OpenGL emulations are quite that greedy.

    I should really be testing this on a physical machine to be fair
    to the software, as this could be a side effect of working in
    a fairly lousy VM setup I have in this case.

    I tested in a second VM, one with accelerated graphics, and
    the DesignCraft program window remained black, CPU usage was
    all over the place, including after killing the progress with
    Task Manager.

    Summary: Not Recommended. Too Janky For Humans.

    Paul


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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 11:48:39 2026
    On Fri, 10/23/2026 11:48 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    On 24/10/2026 03:41, sticks wrote:
    On 10/23/2026 9:11 PM, MegaNZ wrote:
    On 24/10/2026 01:32, Peter Jason wrote:
    Hi, does it have the "Publisher" replacement facilities.?˙ We use Word >>>> for labels.


    Try DesignCraft.

    <https://getartcraft.com/apps/designcraft>

    Scroll down the page and you can download portable versions.

    You think people in business want all this crap?




    YES.

    I tested. Sorry, not recommended at the moment.

    I don't want anything to happen to people out
    there who try that on a physical machine. I tested
    in two VMs, and it isn't good enough to be tested
    on a physical machine (missing cycles in Task Manager).

    The PDFCraft was also heavy on CPU, but it didn't
    misbehave quite as bad when the mouse was outside
    the PDFCraft window.

    Whatever that dick is doing, it's headed in the wrong direction.
    LOTS MORE WORK TO DO, LLM-AI coders. Tear that engine out,
    try again. Engine sucks. It should take no time at
    all to re-write that with a Java engine <snickers a bit>.

    Paul

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  • From Steve Hayes@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 20:00:32 2026
    On Sat, 24 Oct 2026 00:52:46 +0100, MegaNZ <MegaNZ@newsgroups.com>
    wrote:

    On 24/10/2026 00:43, Steve Hayes wrote:
    But LibeOffice no longer has 32-bit versions.


    This is the last version in 32 bit:

    <https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/25.8.7.3/win/x86/LibreOffice_25.8.7.3_Win_x86.msi>

    Thanks very much for that.



    --
    Steve Hayes from Tshwane, South Africa
    Web: http://www.khanya.org.za/stevesig.htm
    Blog: http://methodius.blogspot.com
    E-mail - see web page, or parse: shayes at dunelm full stop org full stop uk

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