• https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5

    From MegaNZ@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 05:27:50 2026
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck! <https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI: <https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>





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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 14:11:45 2026
    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck! <https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI: <https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead
    not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    Socrates felt that the invention of writing would atrophy our brains
    because we wouldn't have to remember anything if we wrote it down

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 13:24:51 2026
    On 22/10/2026 in message <11bd22h$s6f5$1@dont-email.me> J. P. Gilliver
    wrote:

    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are >>strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck! >><https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI: >><https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead
    not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?

    Do you have a website?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 14:43:07 2026
    On 2026/10/22 14:24:51, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 22/10/2026 in message <11bd22h$s6f5$1@dont-email.me> J. P. Gilliver wrote:

    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are
    strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck!
    <https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI:
    <https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead
    not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?

    Do you have a website?

    Yes - hand-coded in HTML 3, and not touched for several years!
    --
    J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/<1985 MB++G()ALIS-Ch++(p)Ar++T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf

    A good pun is its own reword.

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  • From dillinger@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 15:40:08 2026
    Op 22-10-2026 om 15:11 schreef J. P. Gilliver:
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?

    You're not, not likely if you don't know what it is.

    If anyone, your hosting provider should fix it, not you.

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  • From Jeff Gaines@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 15:08:39 2026
    On 22/10/2026 in message <11bd3tc$su8p$1@dont-email.me> J. P. Gilliver
    wrote:

    On 2026/10/22 14:24:51, Jeff Gaines wrote:
    On 22/10/2026 in message <11bd22h$s6f5$1@dont-email.me> J. P. Gilliver >>wrote:

    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities >>>>that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are >>>>strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck! >>>><https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI: >>>><https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead >>>not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?

    Do you have a website?

    Yes - hand-coded in HTML 3, and not touched for several years!

    Then you presumably know if it uses PHP or not?

    --
    Jeff Gaines Dorset UK
    That's an amazing invention but who would ever want to use one of them? (President Hayes speaking to Alexander Graham Bell on the invention of the telephone)

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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 12:05:42 2026
    On 10/22/2026 9:11 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are
    strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck!
    <https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI:
    <https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead
    not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?

    The op's post on the PHP is pretty much useless for those reading the
    Win11 and Win10 group.

    The PHP vulnerability is about an attack on affected web servers.
    Servers running PHP are the exploit target.

    i.e. You unlikely have zero internet-facing devices and services under
    'your control' that are reliant on PHP(hypertext pre-processor
    programming language) that runs directly on web servers which operates entirely behind the scenes on the hosting server.


    Bottom line...ignore the op's post and pretty much every other
    response(beside this one) received in this thread.


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  • From Paul@3:633/10 to All on Thu Oct 22 17:27:23 2026
    On Thu, 10/22/2026 9:11 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2026/10/22 5:27:50, MegaNZ wrote:
    PHP 8.5.12, 8.4.27, 8.3.36 and 8.2.35 fix two critical vulnerabilities
    that can allow unauthenticated remote code execution. All PHP users are
    strongly encouraged to update immediately.

    This has been in the news and so expect hackers trying their luck!
    <https://www.php.net/archive/2026.php#2026-10-21-5>

    BBC Link:
    <https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cmly0lg3w5x2o>

    OpenAI:
    <https://openai.com/index/coordinated-disclosure-of-critical-vulnerabilities/>




    Yes, I've seen and heard the news reports. (You'd have to be fairly dead
    not to!)
    First time I'd ever heard of PHP.

    How do I know if I'm a "PHP user" or not?


    There are lots more Web Server designs. This reference
    is just because the discussion of the issue was using
    the term WAMP (because of php.exe or php-win.exe)


    <------------------ Web server --------------> Web client (your browser)
    HTML, Javascript, Java,
    Ingredients Acronym Silverlight, Adobe Flash, ActiveX
    ----------- ------------ Client Side Interpreters
    Linux or Windows LAMP or WAMP
    Apache
    MariaDB or MySQL
    Perl, PHP, or Python
    for the programming language

    A web server can run on a desktop computer.
    On Linux, CUPS is a web server that presents a print dialog.
    It is at localhost:631 or 127.0.0.1:631 . Web servers
    might "normally" be at Port 80 (where we don't enter the
    port number as that's the default port). The port in the past
    was also set to :8080 for some purpose. The 631 value is likely
    allocated for that specific purpose (port is registered as such),
    rather than "being grabbed" for the job.

    The warning then, is mainly for Web Server operators. But
    that does not completely eliminate the use of obfuscated
    web servers used for UI purposes, locally.

    Basically, if a software product was delivered to you with
    PHP in it, the "update/upgrade strategy" for the product
    would be aggressive and a new version would already have
    been pushed out to you. If you ignored the product
    warning that "you should remove this version because
    it is obsolete and not getting any more updates", then
    it's on you to follow the instructions and remove the material.

    If you knew something technically about the design, maybe
    you wouldn't even bother installing it in the first place :-)
    Rickety go-carts are a dime a dozen.

    Paul

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 17:53:35 2026
    Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
    [...]

    The warning then, is mainly for Web Server operators. But
    that does not completely eliminate the use of obfuscated
    web servers used for UI purposes, locally.

    Exactly! "obfuscated web servers used for UI purposes, *locally*!

    I.e. web servers in your devices which you can control by 'logging
    into' them via your web browser. Those devices might well use PHP
    without you (or even its supplier/documentation) knowing it.

    In the (trusted) news, examples already have been given, such as robot
    vacuum cleaners, video doorbells, etc..

    I have not seen specific mentions yet, but I assume that other devices
    such as modems, routers, NASs, etc. could use PHP.

    Basically, if a software product was delivered to you with
    PHP in it, the "update/upgrade strategy" for the product
    would be aggressive and a new version would already have
    been pushed out to you. If you ignored the product
    warning that "you should remove this version because
    it is obsolete and not getting any more updates", then
    it's on you to follow the instructions and remove the material.

    If you knew something technically about the design, maybe
    you wouldn't even bother installing it in the first place :-)
    Rickety go-carts are a dime a dozen.

    As I mentioned above, they're not only "software product"s, but
    also/mainly hardware/firmware products. And it's very doubtful that
    their manufacturers/suppliers will provide PHP updates soon, if at all.

    And then there are products which use old versions of PHP, which are
    no longer supported by the PHP Foundation and hence will not get fixes.

    For example my (Synology) NAS [1] still has PHP 6.4 and 7.0.

    Because we don't know which of our products use PHP, we also do not
    know if there are any actual vulnerabilities, let alone which ones, how severe/innocent, etc..

    Bottom line: This can of worms has just been opened and will not be
    closed for a long, long time.

    [1] Its management environment (DSM) version is not longer supported and
    the currently supported version is probably too big for the little
    amount of RAM I have. (Sounds familiar!? :-()

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  • From Dennis@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 14:17:30 2026
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    I have not seen specific mentions yet, but I assume that other devices
    such as modems, routers, NASs, etc. could use PHP.

    Possibly. But PHP has a pretty big footprint. I would think these
    devices would use something more compact ... like compiled C/C++ code or
    CGI scripts to present their admin UI.

    --

    Dennis in Cincinnati

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 18:36:31 2026
    [Newsgroups restored. Please don't cut newsgroups. Or at least say so.]

    Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    I have not seen specific mentions yet, but I assume that other devices
    such as modems, routers, NASs, etc. could use PHP.

    Possibly. But PHP has a pretty big footprint. I would think these
    devices would use something more compact ... like compiled C/C++ code or
    CGI scripts to present their admin UI.

    Well, I mentioned video doorbells as examples which apparently *do*
    use PHP. These are, at least physically, rather small devices.

    (And, as I said, my NAS has PHP.)

    Anyway, what's a gigabyte amongst friends!? (Oops, forgot about
    RAMageddon.)

    BTW, on local TV, one guy had no less than *three hundred* home
    automation devices and other gadgets, many of them with their own web
    UI!

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  • From ....winston@3:633/10 to All on Fri Oct 23 16:04:38 2026
    On 10/23/2026 2:36 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    I have not seen specific mentions yet, but I assume that other devices >>> such as modems, routers, NASs, etc. could use PHP.

    Possibly. But PHP has a pretty big footprint.

    Well, I mentioned video doorbells as examples which apparently *do*
    use PHP. These are, at least physically, rather small devices.

    Smart Doorbells afiak are not impacted. Consumer IoT is architecturally different - Ring, Google Nest, Arlo, Blink, or Eufy run on embedded
    C/C++, Go, or lightweight Python firmware engines rather than PHP
    - i.e. no web parsers listening, thus immune to the exploit.

    Not doorbell, but a few companies have acknowledged PHP vulnerability
    and released patches - Synology(though a need to use specific packages
    like Web Station or 3rd party tools like Word Press for a NAS), QNAP - internal web servers.

    There has been discussion in the security community about Western
    Digital products(e.g. MyCloud) - WD is has not acknowledged anything to
    date regarding current OS5 firmware(they might not ever for older
    products). For current WD, disabling Remote Cloud Access(UPnP) or
    operate behind a home VP for remote- note operating locally with your
    network is not a concern.


    (And, as I said, my NAS has PHP.)

    Anyway, what's a gigabyte amongst friends!? (Oops, forgot about RAMageddon.)


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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 10:42:27 2026
    ....winston <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:
    On 10/23/2026 2:36 PM, Frank Slootweg wrote:
    Dennis <nobody@nowhere.invalid> wrote:
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg <this@ddress.is.invalid>
    wrote:

    I have not seen specific mentions yet, but I assume that other devices >>> such as modems, routers, NASs, etc. could use PHP.

    Possibly. But PHP has a pretty big footprint.

    Well, I mentioned video doorbells as examples which apparently *do*
    use PHP. These are, at least physically, rather small devices.

    Smart Doorbells afiak are not impacted. Consumer IoT is architecturally different - Ring, Google Nest, Arlo, Blink, or Eufy run on embedded
    C/C++, Go, or lightweight Python firmware engines rather than PHP
    - i.e. no web parsers listening, thus immune to the exploit.

    Thanks.

    My news source is normally quite reliable, but it is possible that
    they did get this part wrong. We'll see how things pan out.

    Not doorbell, but a few companies have acknowledged PHP vulnerability
    and released patches - Synology(though a need to use specific packages
    like Web Station or 3rd party tools like Word Press for a NAS), QNAP - internal web servers.

    There has been discussion in the security community about Western
    Digital products(e.g. MyCloud) - WD is has not acknowledged anything to
    date regarding current OS5 firmware(they might not ever for older
    products). For current WD, disabling Remote Cloud Access(UPnP) or
    operate behind a home VP for remote- note operating locally with your network is not a concern.

    I haven't enabled remote access for my (Synology) NAS and don't use
    PHP or a (general) webserver such as Web Station, so I should be safe.
    Time will tell.

    Layman question: Why would my NAS have PHP (7.0 and 7.4), while it
    does not have a webserver such as Web Station? (I have not installed the
    PHP packsges, they came out of the box, and I did not uninstall the Web
    Station package, it was never there.)

    (And, as I said, my NAS has PHP.)

    Anyway, what's a gigabyte amongst friends!? (Oops, forgot about RAMageddon.)

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  • From Mark Lloyd@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 15:15:58 2026
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    [snip]

    And then there are products which use old versions of PHP, which are
    no longer supported by the PHP Foundation and hence will not get fixes.

    For example my (Synology) NAS [1] still has PHP 6.4 and 7.0.

    I thought there never was a PHP 6.x

    [snip]

    --
    62 days until the winter celebration (Friday, December 25, 2026 12:00 AM
    for 1 day).

    Mark Lloyd
    http://notstupid.us/

    "Think not that I am come to send peace on earth; I came not to send
    peace, but a sword." [Jesus, Matthew 10:34]

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  • From Frank Slootweg@3:633/10 to All on Sat Oct 24 15:28:26 2026
    Mark Lloyd <nomail@here.invalid> wrote:
    On 23 Oct 2026 17:53:35 GMT, Frank Slootweg wrote:

    [snip]

    And then there are products which use old versions of PHP, which are
    no longer supported by the PHP Foundation and hence will not get fixes.

    For example my (Synology) NAS [1] still has PHP 6.4 and 7.0.

    I thought there never was a PHP 6.x

    Sorry, that was a typo. It should be 7.4. In another post, I used the
    correct version(s) (7.0 and 7.4).

    I guess it only shows that I know little to nothing about PHP! :-)

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