Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Brian Gregory wrote:

I do wish the 11 start menu could be configured to work more like the
Windows 7 one worked.

I understand there is a 'new' start menu included in 25H2 which has not been widely enabled yet?? There's a tool somewhere to force it on ...

Have just noticed it's been enabled on this machine (new
category/grid/list option in Start).

The Category one is completely bonkers! For example in the Productivity category, there's the Windows Security UI! :-( But to be [f|F]rank, some
of the others are not *that* bad. But for me, most is in Other (Duh!),
even things like Thunderbird! :-( Anyway, the good thing is you can turn
it off (i.e. use Grid or List).

Can't see it helping Brian ...

Or anybody else.

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Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

The Category one is completely bonkers! > most is in Other (Duh!), even things like Thunderbird!

FF and TB both went into productivity here along with Chrome, Edge and LibreOffice

I also have Chrome and Edge in Productivity (don't have FF, nor
LibreOffice).

My Thunderbird is old (60.9..0) and 32-bit, perhaps that 'explains'
why they put it in Other.

But all of this does not explain putting the Windows Security UI in Productivity.

Let's hope *some* people actually like the 'new' Start menu.

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On 3/2/2026 1:25 PM, Andy Burns wrote:

Andy Burns wrote:

Brian Gregory wrote:

I do wish the 11 start menu could be configured to work more like the
Windows 7 one worked.

I understand there is a 'new' start menu included in 25H2 which has
not been widely enabled yet?ÿ There's a tool somewhere to force it on ...

Have just noticed it's been enabled on this machine (new category/grid/
list option in Start).

Can't see it helping Brian ...

Start/Show all/View:List/<Category, Grid, List>

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On 3/3/2026 3:47 AM, Frank Slootweg wrote:

Andy Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

Frank Slootweg wrote:

The Category one is completely bonkers! > most is in Other (Duh!), even things like Thunderbird!

FF and TB both went into productivity here along with Chrome, Edge and
LibreOffice

I also have Chrome and Edge in Productivity (don't have FF, nor LibreOffice).

My Thunderbird is old (60.9..0) and 32-bit, perhaps that 'explains'
why they put it in Other.

But all of this does not explain putting the Windows Security UI in Productivity.

Let's hope *some* people actually like the 'new' Start menu.

My impression after conversing with a few 'Softies'(internal MSFT
contacts) this change is more marketing(supposed to sound good) and/or marketing direction to developers.

I don't expect a rush towards use of 'Category' with the majority of
past and current use towards an 'alpha' method(available in the past and
now in Grid and List'.

For those who've already managed their programs and apps on the Start
Menu into their preferred named 'Groups' and using the Start Menu's
Pinned section 'Show all' - where personal grouping is often 'category'
based, there's very little need for a new pre-determined 'category' feature.

I've 24 items on my Start Menu four of those are my own categories that include - Office, Apps, Utilities, System, the balance are just pinned shortcuts to the most used programs and apps with 5 unique items(File
Explorer - one for C: drive, one for D: drive, one for SDXC card, one
for Quick Launch) and Windows Update.

Windows Security is pinned in my System group.



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