Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card:I never eject from explorer. I use the 'safe to remove' icon in the systray. It it's not
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card:
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
whenever I've finished with a USB stick I just remove it.
Have done for years and never had any problems.
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card:
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
On 2025/8/18 15:34:7, Alan K. wrote:
On 8/18/25 9:41 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:I wondered if someone would come up with that one! I don't have the "^"
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card: >>>I never eject from explorer. I use the 'safe to remove' icon in the systray. It it's not
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting >>> a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
there then look at the ^ arrow for see hidden items. It can be made 'not hidden' if you
want. That's the icon I ALWAYS use and have had zero issue.
- I have the tray set to always show all icons. (My tray currently has
18 - two rows of 9 - icons in it. [I have a double-height taskbar.])
Yes, I would use that icon - _if_ it was there. See my point 1 (which
was half the reason for starting this thread): it has stopped appearing. Fortunately, for now, Eject is there in explorer - and I see no harm in
using it; it's what it's there for. (It isn't there for fixed drives
such as C:.) It's just normally _quicker_ to use the tray one.
Have you tried any other known working hardware?I have a mouse and printer, via a hub, plugged into one USB2 port, and a keyboard into the other. The third port, USB3, is the one I plug the USB sticks into (which work fine) - I also use it for a phono preamp and my scanner (both USB2 I think), which work fine.
Peter,
whenever I've finished with a USB stick I just remove it.
Have done for years and never had any problems.
Try that with an USB connected drive, and you will likely get a different result.
FYI, USB attached storage can be configured for speed (buffering reads and writes) or for quick removal (not buffering writes). Thumbdrives are by default configured for the latter.
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
And the "fixed" or "removable" media designation, is via the RMB
bit in the hardware.
I always use Safely Remove, as a muscle memory habit. Doing so,
also highlights whether your application software has a TxF problem.
Paul,
And the "fixed" or "removable" media designation, is via the RMB
bit in the hardware.
I forgot all about that. :-\
I just remembered that something being designated as "removable media" has a downside : You can't partition such a device (its always a single disk).
No idea why though, as an USB connected drive I also have has no problem with being partitioned.
I always use Safely Remove, as a muscle memory habit. Doing so,
also highlights whether your application software has a TxF problem.
"TxF" ? Whats that ?
But yes, same here. I had it sometimes fail because I still had a file open on the thumbdrive ...
Regards,
Rudy Wieser
Can't answer your question but whenever I've finished with a USB stick
I just remove it. Have done for years and never had any problems.
Alan K. wrote:
J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card: >>>
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" -
which _is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm
_not_ getting a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for
lights to stop flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
I never eject from explorer. I use the 'safe to remove' icon in the systray. It it's not
there then look at the ^ arrow for see hidden items. It can be made 'not hidden' if you
want. That's the icon I ALWAYS use and have had zero issue.
I wondered if someone would come up with that one! I don't have the "^"
- I have the tray set to always show all icons. (My tray currently has
18 - two rows of 9 - icons in it. [I have a double-height taskbar.])
VanguardLH wrote:
I have seen where loading a volume whose properties are such that the
volume should be ejected before unloading, but the tray icon missing.
You can separately run:
rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll
Sounds useful; how does it know which device you want to eject, or does
it eject all currently-connected devices?>
Just because it is USB attached does not mandate an eject is required
before disconnect. Depends on the properties of the device (recorded in
the Enum registry keys for USB devices sent by the device to the OS
during initial handshaking), or possibly the device properties were
changed to Quick Removal.
For the two USB sticks in question, they always used to cause the tray
icon to appear, and the "safe to" box to appear after using the tray
icon to say I wanted to eject; then they didn't.
I haven't consciously switched them to fast disconnect - I wouldn't
know how to.
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card:
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card:
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
On 2025-08-18 15:41, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card: >>
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
I read, somewhere, that M$ decided it is not any longer needed to do the "safely remove" thing anymore, because people forget it anyway.
This means that they make sure write data is not cached (for long).
It should be enough to watch the activity LED on the stick, and remove it when the light stops blinking
(yeah, and what happens when there is no light, or it is permanently "on"?).
I don't trust this new feature.
J. P. Gilliver wrote:
Normally, when I plug in a memory stick, or external hard drive or SD card: >>
1. Something appears in the notification (tray) area; and
2. when I've told the PC to let me remove it, I get a "safe to" popup.
However, in (I think) the last few days:
1. I am _not_ getting the tray indication; and
2. when I tell the computer I'm finished with it (I do "eject" - which
_is_ there - on the drive letter, from File Explorer), I'm _not_ getting
a "safe to remove" popup. (I just wait a bit, and for lights to stop
flashing on the one that _has_ a light).
I'm not _aware_ of having changed anything.
Any idea what's changed/happened/whatever? (And what I need to do to
bring back both?)
I still have my "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" icon in my
tray, but for some reason it quit notifying me when a thumb drive or my external drive are safe to remove.
VanguardLH wrote:
"J. P. Gilliver" <G6JPG@255soft.uk> wrote:
VanguardLH wrote:
rundll32.exe shell32.dll,Control_RunDLL hotplug.dll
Sounds useful; how does it know which device you want to eject, or does
it eject all currently-connected devices?>
I misunderstood. I thought you were giving the above as a command line;
I just tried it, and got "This file does not have an app associated
with it for performing this action. Please install an app or, if one
is already installed, create an association in the Default Apps
Settings page.\OK">
I just fetched one of my pen drives, and plugged it in: the additional explorer window popped up, showing the root of E:. (AVG also popped up;
I declined its offer to scan the new drive.) I tried control.exe
hotplug.dll again, and sure enough, it now shows "Generic Flash Disk USB Device"; I click the Stop button, and get a further window, telling me Windows will attempt to stop ..., listing Generic as above and "Volume - (E:)", which makes sense. I click OK, and get Problem Ejecting ... The 'Generic Flash Disk USB Device' device is not removable and cannot be
ejected or unplugged. (OK) Guessing that it is the extra Explorer window
that is the reason (it often has been in the past), I close that, and
try Stop again: same "Problem" message! I wasn't expecting that! I close
the wizard, and try ejecting E: from another explorer window I have
open: after a brief pause (1-2 seconds), E: disappears from that
explorer view, at which point I would normally unplug. Just out of
curiosity, I try control.exe hotplug.dll again: to my slight surprise,
it still shows it as present, and trying Stop still gives the same
Problem. Looking back at my Explorer window, E: has not magically
reappeared.
I unplug anyway (got the usual unplug sound), and replug. Got the sound,
AVG popup, and E: has reappeared in my Explorer window. (This time, an
extra Explorer window has _not_ appeared - maybe because the Explorer
window had focus, I don't know.)
I still have my "Safely Remove Hardware and Eject Media" icon in my
tray, but for some reason it quit notifying me when a thumb drive or my external drive are safe to remove.
VanguardLH wrote:
Same series of events occur when you disable AVG's auto-scan ofBut why should that have _changed_? As far as I can remember, it has
removable media? To me, looks like AVG is interferring with Explorer's
handling of newly attached USB media.
_always_ popped up the offer to scan when I insert a pen drive (or SD
card). I am fairly certain that it did this _before_ the tray icon and
"safe to remove" popup stopped appearing.
* The tray icon that finally reappeared when - I think - I plugged and
then unplugged the pen drive yesterday is still there! Still no tooltip
when hovered over, unlike other tray icons; its background rectangle
still changes colour when it is hovered over. I presume it'll disappear
next Windows restart! (Don't know when that will be.)
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