• Re: How to get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default"

    From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 01:16:21 2025
    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've
    made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make
    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app)

    If you've another brand of pdf reader, why do you need Adobe?
    - i.e. no Adobe installed, no 'make Adobe your default pdf reader'
    messsage!


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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 01:54:16 2025
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  • From micky@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 05:13:31 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but
    there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't
    believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't
    installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've
    made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make

    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had
    seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app)

    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this. It's
    pretty big box, almost half the height of the screen and 1/5 the width,
    on the lower right of the screen that pops up every once in a while and
    stays for 20 or 30 seconds with graphics moving around. Very
    distracting.

    The box doesn't show up right at start-up but I thought they might use a startup program to do this, since I don't have Acrobat running. I don't
    know enough about Windows to know what is doing this. I think I looked
    in Task Manager and nothing with adobe or acrobat in the name was
    running, so I figure they gave it a phony name.

    If you've another brand of pdf reader, why do you need Adobe?

    I said I was tempted but I thought it is supposed to be easy to use to
    fill in forms. IIRC it was. To see if it's really easier than others
    will take some time that I don't have right now.

    - i.e. no Adobe installed, no 'make Adobe your default pdf reader'
    messsage!

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  • From Operation Sindoor@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 05:36:05 2025
    On 29/06/2025 15:50, micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    You need to go your Windows Settings. It is under Apps >> default Apps
    Choose default by file types.

    Now you need to choose Microsoft Edge or Firefox or Google Chrome.




    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't believe they think they will make friends this way.

    If you are not using Adobe Reader then there is no point in installing
    it or to have it on your machine. Adobe Reader was good when there were
    no alternatives to fill forms but now there are many around. Adobe is
    still the Standard in Windows.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've
    made it much more likely that I won't.

    Good. Don't install it until you actually need it. If things are free,
    it doesn't mean you have to install them. They can create more problems
    if they are from dubious sites.

    Hope this helps for now.

    Jai Hind






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  • From J. P. Gilliver@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 06:09:33 2025
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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Mon Jun 30 16:40:03 2025
    On Sun, 6/29/2025 4:09 PM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/6/29 20:36:5, Operation Sindoor wrote:
    On 29/06/2025 15:50, micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but >>> there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might >>> it be?

    You need to go your Windows Settings. It is under Apps >> default Apps
    >> Choose default by file types.

    Now you need to choose Microsoft Edge or Firefox or Google Chrome.

    micky wasn't complaining about Acrobat taking over as a default handler for PDFs - he was asking about a popup that keeps appearing on his system that is _suggesting_ he makes it the default handler.>
    (At first I thought he was seeing this popup only at startup, but it seems he's getting it at other times too.)
    []
    I agree with you, don't install Acrobat - or anything else, even if it's free - if you don't need it, especially if you already have something that does all it does.

    After Adobe crossed a magical line here one day, after it updated itself,
    I removed it. When a dialog appeared asking "why did you remove it?"
    I told them. That they'd been sent to the shed for being naughty.

    I have two copies of Okular. It isn't as good, but it's not in
    the shed right now. I have an Okular in bash shell and
    an Okular as a win32. It has affected my productivity.

    Ubuntu Linux also crossed a magical line one day, and is no
    longer allowed on the premises, except when someone needs help.
    They started interfering with my usage of a machine, line crossed,
    off to the shed you go.

    There isn't time every day to "sort stuff", but the shed gets the odd bit.

    I still have an Acrobat 9, on the orbiting collection the Test Machine uses. Because that isn't pushy and disfunctional.

    Paul

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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 01:03:24 2025
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/6/29 16:16:21, ...winston wrote:
    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app)

    Ah, this time he _did_ tell you: he said the message was '"Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader'. I think that's fairly clear (-:>
    Adobe Acrobat and Adobe Acrobat Reader are two different programs.
    - both provide the ability to read pdf files.
    - the former subscription ware, the latter free ware


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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 01:12:05 2025
    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but >>> there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might >>> it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't
    believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't
    installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've >>> made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make

    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had
    seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app)

    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this.

    Adobe's Acrobat and Acrobat Reader are two different programs.

    The Acrobat full featured product comes in two flavors Standard and Pro.


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  • From Operation Sindoor@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 07:24:01 2025
    On 30/06/2025 17:33, Dick Baker wrote:
    Same result via Control Panel Programs & Features and Installed
    Apps: uninstall pane opens--and freezes with no progress.

    On Windows 11, the best method to uninstall any Apps is via the Settings
    Apps >> Installed Apps

    You can then go to the Adobe Reader entry and at the end of the entry,
    you'll see dots { .... }. Click on it and It should give you the option
    to uninstall it or any Apps for that matter.

    If you have tried this and it didn't work then you can use "Brute
    Force". By this you need to use Revo-Uninstaller (Portable version). The
    link is this:

    <https://12e557b1175a7f6f65c3-390eba73bffb52d4919a107aa9000374.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.com/RevoUninstaller_Portable.zip>

    The above link is correct as I got it from this page:

    <https://www.revouninstaller.com/products/revo-uninstaller-free/>

    I normally recommend portable versions so that users don't have to
    struggle with an installed versions on a Windows System.

    Jai Hind








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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 13:20:58 2025
    micky wrote:
    I think Adobe REader, even though it's called
    a reader, lets you fill out forms or at least fillable forms.

    That's beside the point.
    All you needed to clarify was if the installed program was
    Adobe Acrobat
    or
    Adobe Acrobat Reader (aka Adobe Reader)
    - Reader is a separate stand-alone application that is also included
    in Acrobat

    Reader is available in Classic or DC versions
    - Classic is version 2020 (no feature updates but security) - free
    - DC is continous(feature updates and security) = also free


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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 21:27:12 2025
    On 2025-06-30 23:30, micky wrote:

    My new pain doctor gave me 12 pages
    of forms to fill out. He even wanted my driver's license number, I
    guess so that if I don't pay, he'll sic the state police on me. (I left
    that field blank.)

    No, the reason is that it is a restricted medication. It is for you
    alone, you are not allowed to pass it on. If you pass it on (or worse,
    sell it), the police will be onto you if they find out.

    This is the same in many countries, with variations on the procedure.

    Most probably, if you don't fill the ID number, you will not get the medication.

    --
    Cheers, Carlos.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 21:50:18 2025
    On 2025-06-30 23:30, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:12:05 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader. >>>>> Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but >>>>> there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might >>>>> it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't >>>>> believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't >>>>> installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've >>>>> made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make >>>
    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had
    seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app) >>>
    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this.

    Adobe's Acrobat and Acrobat Reader are two different programs.

    The Acrobat full featured product comes in two flavors Standard and Pro.


    It was one or the other. I think Adobe REader, even though it's called
    a reader, lets you fill out forms or at least fillable forms.

    Of course it does. As do many other PDF viewers.

    I don't
    think Firefox does that at all.

    Of course it does.

    The Adobe Acrobat software allows to edit the PDF themselves, which is something different from filling forms. And it is not free.

    The Reader does not allow editing PDFs. Filling a form is not editing
    the PDF.



    --
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  • From micky@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 22:05:35 2025
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 1 Jul 2025 13:50:18 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-06-30 23:30, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:12:05 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader. >>>>>> Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but >>>>>> there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might >>>>>> it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't >>>>>> believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't >>>>>> installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've >>>>>> made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make >>>>
    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had
    seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app) >>>>
    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this.

    Adobe's Acrobat and Acrobat Reader are two different programs.

    The Acrobat full featured product comes in two flavors Standard and Pro.


    It was one or the other. I think Adobe REader, even though it's called
    a reader, lets you fill out forms or at least fillable forms.

    Of course it does. As do many other PDF viewers.

    I don't
    think Firefox does that at all.

    Of course it does.

    Maybe so. The last time I had such a form was my income tax, in March,
    and I forget how I did it. If I remember, I'll let you know next March.
    Okay, Firefox did not do it when Adobe Reader first came out, but now FF
    works and I really don't need Adobe, but it still annoys me that they're forcing me to delete their own product, instead of behaving like
    gentlemen and letting me stop the popup.

    The Adobe Acrobat software allows to edit the PDF themselves, which is >something different from filling forms. And it is not free.

    It's quite expensive.. That's part of the rsaaon the popup annoys me so
    much, even though it's probably for the free Reader. I think it should
    be beneath a company with an expensive product to do that sort of thing.
    Some guy with shareware scraping for every dollar who did it wouldn't
    bother me so much.

    The Reader does not allow editing PDFs. Filling a form is not editing
    the PDF.

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  • From Carlos E.R.@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 1 22:37:12 2025
    On 2025-07-01 14:05, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 1 Jul 2025 13:50:18 +0200, "Carlos
    E.R." <robin_listas@es.invalid> wrote:

    On 2025-06-30 23:30, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:12:05 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader. >>>>>>> Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but
    there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction. >>>>>>>
    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't >>>>>>> believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't >>>>>>> installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've
    made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make >>>>>
    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had >>>>> seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app)

    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this.

    Adobe's Acrobat and Acrobat Reader are two different programs.

    The Acrobat full featured product comes in two flavors Standard and Pro. >>>

    It was one or the other. I think Adobe REader, even though it's called
    a reader, lets you fill out forms or at least fillable forms.

    Of course it does. As do many other PDF viewers.

    I don't
    think Firefox does that at all.

    Of course it does.

    Maybe so. The last time I had such a form was my income tax, in March,
    and I forget how I did it. If I remember, I'll let you know next March. Okay, Firefox did not do it when Adobe Reader first came out, but now FF works and I really don't need Adobe, but it still annoys me that they're forcing me to delete their own product, instead of behaving like
    gentlemen and letting me stop the popup.

    What Firefox doesn't do is forms with javascript code. The only software
    I know that does them are Adobe's. There may be some other Windows
    software that does it in Windows (I don't know which), and none on Linux.

    Notice that this is dangerous. You could download a book, and everytime
    you open it, the editors can be told about it. They will know if you
    copy the PDF and give it to some one. And of course, the code can be malicious. Thus, many viewers do not even try to support these forms,
    but several government tax agencies use them.

    Tax agencies use them because they can do field validation, and
    automated filling of other fields based on calculations on the input data.


    <https://www.pdfscripting.com/public/Free-Sample-PDF-Files-with-scripts.cfm>




    The Adobe Acrobat software allows to edit the PDF themselves, which is
    something different from filling forms. And it is not free.

    It's quite expensive.. That's part of the rsaaon the popup annoys me so much, even though it's probably for the free Reader. I think it should
    be beneath a company with an expensive product to do that sort of thing.
    Some guy with shareware scraping for every dollar who did it wouldn't
    bother me so much.

    They have been doing this sort of thing for decades.

    And what is very nasty of them, they removed their support from Linux.

    --
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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 2 01:35:22 2025
    On Mon, 6/30/2025 5:30 PM, micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Mon, 30 Jun 2025 11:12:05 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sun, 29 Jun 2025 11:16:21 -0400,
    "...winston" <winstonmvp@gmail.com> wrote:

    micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader. >>>>> Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but >>>>> there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might >>>>> it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't >>>>> believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't >>>>> installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've >>>>> made it much more likely that I won't.


    It is usually helpful to include details on where/when you see the 'make >>>
    You're right, but I figured people who knew how to get rid of it had
    seen it and would recognize what I'm talking about.

    Adobe Acrobat your default pdf reader'.
    - pictures can also be included in pertinent details

    Additionally, specify the product.
    Adobe Acrobat, Adobe Reader, Adobe ??(some other Adobe program or app) >>>
    I think it's Acrobat but any Adobe product might be doing this.

    Adobe's Acrobat and Acrobat Reader are two different programs.

    The Acrobat full featured product comes in two flavors Standard and Pro.


    It was one or the other. I think Adobe REader, even though it's called
    a reader, lets you fill out forms or at least fillable forms. I don't
    think Firefox does that at all. I normally read my pdf files in Firefox,
    so I was happy to have a small simple program for forms, although it's
    only in the prior computer and I'm not going to install it in this one because of those annoying popups. My new pain doctor gave me 12 pages
    of forms to fill out. He even wanted my driver's license number, I
    guess so that if I don't pay, he'll sic the state police on me. (I left
    that field blank.)


    You be careful with the pain meds, OK.

    We lost another poster, after they casually announced
    they'd just been given "powerful" pain medication.
    My conclusion is, the medication really was powerful :-/

    If you're going to screw with sedatives, you should
    at least have a house-mate for safety. That doesn't guarantee
    survival on a mistake, only improves the odds slightly
    you can be rescued.

    And knowing the doctor, the doctor likely didn't give
    you a lecture on the side-effects (such as breathing
    suppressed to the point you pass away).

    You should run the name of the med through
    at least one web page, and get the contraindications
    for it. A pharmaceutical index (book with blue cover)
    has the information, and some web pages reproduce a
    portion of it. The doctor receives a new blue book, once
    a year (with new meds added).

    None of the doctors at my clinic, can prescribe pain
    medications any more. They've had their pain med
    permissions taken away. The rules are very strict
    for doctors. The filling out of forms, is only
    part of it.

    And pain-med-seeking individuals still attend the clinic.
    Even though the pain-med status of the attending
    doctors is listed on the board, up front. It's not
    like the pain-med status of the doctor is a secret,
    it's displayed next to their name

    Can't prescribe pain meds.
    Can't treat children.
    Will not fill out forms for Workmans Compensation.

    And so on.

    As a joke, one of the interns at the clinic, if
    you present with back pain, he will tell you

    "You should try yoga".

    To which I would reply

    "Ok, write me a prescription for some yogurt"

    Two can play this game.

    Paul


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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 2 02:09:46 2025
    On Tue, 7/1/2025 8:37 AM, Carlos E.R. wrote:


    What Firefox doesn't do is forms with javascript code. The only software I know that does them are Adobe's. There may be some other Windows software that does it in Windows (I don't know which), and none on Linux.

    https://support.mozilla.org/en-US/questions/1333222

    about:config

    pdfjs.enableScripting BOOLEAN True <=== Javascript-inside-a-PDF support

    The PDF reader module may itself be written in Javascript, but
    there is also interpretation of Javascript within the body
    of a PDF file, which is also supported. The name of the code
    module is "pdfjs" but in the documents themselves, the
    Javascript in there can be supported.

    Even if you use "mutool" and decompress a PDF with Javascript inside,
    the code is still not recognizable to the eye. Which is an
    unfortunate design choice, whoever did it that way.

    *******

    In any case, you should re-test Firefox or Chrome, and see
    what the latest interpreter is capable of. The above configuration
    setting hints at capabilities that are present.

    Paul



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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Wed Jul 2 02:19:58 2025
    On Sun, 6/29/2025 10:50 AM, micky wrote:
    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    It stays there a long time and it moves. It's a real distraction.

    I'm tempted to delete the reader I have. That will teach 'em. I can't believe they think they will make friends this way.

    So far it's only on one win10 Home box, but that's because I haven't installed Adobe on the new computer yet, or the other one. And they've
    made it much more likely that I won't.


    Is it considered to be a Notification ?

    Maybe you can look through the phone-interface of the OS
    and "turn off Notifications for Adobe Acrobat Reader" or something.

    Settings : System : Notifications

    Paul

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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 8 03:38:47 2025
    Andy Burns wrote:
    micky wrote:

    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    Google says to check the box that says "Don't show this again", duh, but
    there is no such box.

    I can't find anything from Adobe in my start-up folder. Where else might
    it be?

    It popped-up for me a few days after I installed Acrobat, but I didn't
    catch what process it was created by, so I've left Process Explorer
    running all week, and it just popped-up again, I dragged the cross-hairs onto it and it is coming from ShellExperienceHost.exe ... so Adobe have wedged themselves in there.

    Anyway, if you look in Acrobat, there's a [...] menu towards the
    top-right corner, in there is a yes/no option.

    <http://andyburns.uk/misc/acrobat-make-default.png>

    I'll ley you know if it comes back again ...



    Maybe an older version - pre current release channel versions(DC
    Continuous or DC Classic).
    - DC Continuous is available in 32 or 64 bit(the latter only in the
    MUI installer). DC Classic iirc was only 32 bit
    - in Win10/11 the option for default pdf type files supported by
    Adobe Acrobat Reader DC versions is configured in Windows(not the Reader software).

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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 8 12:14:05 2025
    Andy Burns wrote:
    "...winston" wrote:

    Maybe an older version - pre current release channel versions(DC
    Continuous or DC Classic).
    - DC Continuous is available in 32 or 64 bit(the latter only in the
    MUI installer). DC Classic iirc was only 32 bit
    - in Win10/11 the option for default pdf type files supported by
    Adobe Acrobat Reader DC versions is configured in Windows(not the
    Reader software).

    It's the 64bit continuous release Acrobat reader (it's presently
    offering a free trial of the Pro version, hopefully it'll give that up
    soon) I don't use it as my main PDF viewer, so it's annoying when it
    keeps offering to take over as default.

    You might remember my intel gfx driver got hosed a few weeks back when I wanted to monitor temperatures after disabling memory compression, I
    tried nbfc, speedfan and hwmonitor, and between them something really
    upset the machine, I had to backup, flatten and reinstall win11, now
    I've forced the latest non-lenovo, non-windows-update, drivers from
    intel, disabled driver updates and everything is rock solid, just
    getting round to reinstalling all the odds and ends, hence the new
    acrobat install.


    Afaik, Windows 10/11 still requires configuring default program
    settings(and their file types) in Windows, not the application software.
    - either in the app programs settings or via the right click\open with\always use option.

    Other methods(hack, tweak, Intune[modify the installer]) may also
    work(e.g. registry value changes; GPO; DISM command-line string), and/or
    use of an Adobe exe in elevated mode(ADelRCP.exe).
    - the latter exe while available, usage is more common in Enterprise
    admin controlled devices)

    Not to be confused with configuring browser settings for pdf(download,
    open settings etc.)


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  • From ...winston@3:633/280.2 to All on Tue Jul 8 20:52:00 2025
    J. P. Gilliver wrote:
    On 2025/7/8 3:14:5, ...winston wrote:
    []

    Afaik, Windows 10/11 still requires configuring default program
    settings(and their file types) in Windows, not the application software.
    - either in the app programs settings or via the right click\open
    with\always use option.

    If anything, slightly _more_ so than earlier Windows. IrfanView - my
    goto for all things to do with images - has an Options | Set file associations function, with tickboxes for all the common (and uncommon) image file formats - but that page has two lines at its head:

    Associated file extensions - RUN AS ADMIN (!) on Win7, Win8, Win10, Win11.

    [ ] Try to change associations in System Registry (for XP, Vista, Win7, Win8)

    (that's a tickbox at the start of the second line).


    To clarify...
    The latest version of IrfanView's Options/Set file
    associations/extensions has '3(three)' lines at the top of the dialog box.

    Associated file extensions....
    - no setting, only info
    On Win10/11, you MUST use System Settings, Apps, Default
    - Default Apps select-able box
    Try to change associations...
    - tick box

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  • From Hank Rogers@3:633/280.2 to All on Thu Jul 10 06:16:34 2025
    Andy Burns wrote on 7/9/2025 2:40 PM:
    micky wrote:

    How do I get rid of the "Make Adobe Acrobat your default" pdf reader.
    After a reboot it was back to demanding that acrobat should be the
    default *and* whining that I'd disabled location services ... well that
    was enough shit to get it uninstalled!


    You should have done that to start with. While you're at it why not see
    what other adobe crap is there and get rid of it with a good uninstaller?



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  • From AJL@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 01:42:33 2025
    On 7/10/2025 4:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    .... and, hopefully, let Adobe know that you uninstalled it and WHY
    you uninstalled it!!

    yes they did popup a survey to answer why I was daring to remove it ...
    but I doubt they read those things

    Over the years I've always used the Adobe Acrobat Reader app as a
    default and never had a popup problem so apparently refusing the
    default's the only way you get the popups? I mostly use the reader to
    make the File Explorer preview pane work but occasionally have used the
    app directly. There ARE ads in the app itself but again no popups and
    not all that annoying (to me) for the free service I get. (Kinda like
    the ads in the online newspapers I read for free...)

    I recently acquired this laptop and since it has a local account I got
    the app directly from the Adobe site since the MS store won't work.
    There are no popup problems (so far) but apparently that's apparently
    because it's happy being a default. And of course if I really want to
    use another app or browser to open a PDF file I can just right click and choose from the list. Easy peasy.

    BTW on an earlier subject of upgrading this 23H2 laptop's 64GB storage
    so that I could install 24H2 (Windows complained of not enough room) I
    was successful. The C: drive now has 437GB free. But since the storage
    upgrade Windows has not offered to do the 24H2 upgrade. Can't win. And
    again please no suggestions (the Internet's full of em...). I'm just
    gonna wait until the 23H2 security abandonment deadline. My guess? A grandkid's probably gonna get this laptop toy...



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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 01:49:38 2025
    On Thu, 7/10/2025 7:48 AM, Andy Burns wrote:
    Daniel70 wrote:

    .... and, hopefully, let Adobe know that you uninstalled it and WHY you uninstalled it!!

    yes they did popup a survey to answer why I was daring to remove it ... but I doubt they read those things

    I filled out my survey, and I told them "in no uncertain terms".

    For those who don't know, after they've irritated you, they
    pop up a survey.

    Base on the experience Andy had, I would say Adobe isn't learning
    anything from the surveys. But the Adobe business
    model ("pissing of users one at a time") is wildly successful
    for them. They have one of the largest collections of
    expletive laden survey results on Earth.

    "We are proud of our Minus Five rating"

    Paul

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  • From AJL@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 02:10:19 2025
    On 7/10/2025 9:01 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

    if acrobat can't stomach being installed as number2 fiddle, then it's
    no longer for me.

    YMMV...

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  • From Paul@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 04:23:38 2025
    On Thu, 7/10/2025 12:10 PM, AJL wrote:
    On 7/10/2025 9:01 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

    if acrobat can't stomach being installed as number2 fiddle, then it's
    no longer for me.

    YMMV...

    I showed my copy the door. I filled out my survey, too.
    Somebody has to do it.

    If you have automatic updates on a program, and the
    automatic update *REMOVES* a function from the tool,
    what options do you have to express your feelings
    on the matter ?

    No, it does not make me want to rent your Pro version.

    You can keep your Pro version, where the light does not shine
    (Adobe headquarters).

    Paul

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  • From AJL@3:633/280.2 to All on Fri Jul 11 05:47:44 2025
    On 7/10/2025 11:23 AM, Paul wrote:
    On Thu, 7/10/2025 12:10 PM, AJL wrote:
    On 7/10/2025 9:01 AM, Andy Burns wrote:

    if acrobat can't stomach being installed as number2 fiddle, then
    it's no longer for me.

    YMMV...

    I showed my copy the door. I filled out my survey, too. Somebody has
    to do it. If you have automatic updates on a program, and the
    automatic update *REMOVES* a function from the tool, what options do
    you have to express your feelings on the matter ? No, it does not
    make me want to rent your Pro version. You can keep your Pro version,
    where the light does not shine (Adobe headquarters). Paul

    YMMV also...

    I doubt Adobe gives a sh*t about a few individual opinions. But now if
    most folks would just stop using their stuff and they go broke I guess
    I'd just have to get another app... 8-O

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