For those with a computer that can’t handle Window 11, and who are
caught like a deer in the headlights of the approaching end of support
for Windows 10, there are 3 things you can do:
* Suck it up. Junk your existing machine and buy something more modern.
* Stick it out with an obsolete, unsupported OS. By all means continue
to run mission-critical business operations on it, and it will still
keep working fine ... until the day it doesn’t.
* Switch to some more modern OS that will be supported on your
hardware.
Which one is the smart choice? The “End of 10” project is here to help you make an informed decision.
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-end-of-10-makes-converting-your-pc-to-linux-easier-than-ever/>
In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Sat, 21 Jun 2025 00:04:17 -0000 (UTC),
Lawrence D'Oliveiro <ldo@nz.invalid> wrote:
For those with a computer that can’t handle Window 11, and who are
caught like a deer in the headlights of the approaching end of support
for Windows 10, there are 3 things you can do:
* Suck it up. Junk your existing machine and buy something more modern.
* Stick it out with an obsolete, unsupported OS. By all means continue
to run mission-critical business operations on it, and it will still
keep working fine ... until the day it doesn’t.
* Switch to some more modern OS that will be supported on your
hardware.
I don't thave a link but I read that some or many pcs that MS says can't handle win11 can, and there are ways to install 11 on them. Sorry I
have no advice on who this applies to or how to do it.
Which one is the smart choice? The “End of 10” project is here to help >> you make an informed decision.
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-end-of-10-makes-converting-your-pc-to-linux-easier-than-ever/>
My 4th gen processor is running W11.
On 2025/6/21 1:33:6, Hank Rogers wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote on 6/20/2025 7:04 PM:[provocative bit snipped]
To be fair, I don't think I've ever heard Mr. Torvalds knocking other OSs; he just createdWhich one is the smart choice? The “End of 10†project is here to help
you make an informed decision.
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-end-of-10-makes- converting-your-
pc-to-linux-easier-than-ever/>
Linux is wonderful ain't it? I wish everyone could hear the gospel of Linus. Praise
him, all ye faithful.
Amen.
his own (I think originally as a licence-free clone of UNIX). It is other people who verge
on the religious zeal.
On 6/21/25 9:19 AM, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
On 2025/6/21 1:33:6, Hank Rogers wrote:
Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote on 6/20/2025 7:04 PM:[provocative bit snipped]
To be fair, I don't think I've ever heard Mr. Torvalds knocking other OSs; he just created his own (I think originally as a licence-free clone of UNIX). It is other people who verge on the religious zeal.Which one is the smart choice? The “End of 10†project is here to help
you make an informed decision.
<https://www.zdnet.com/article/ready-to-ditch-windows-end-of-10-makes- converting-your- pc-to-linux-easier-than-ever/>
Linux is wonderful ain't it? I wish everyone could hear the gospel of Linus. Praise him, all ye faithful.
Amen.
As other things should be: If you like it, great, use it.
However, I'm all for people trying other things. Who knows, maybe there is something better. That or it makes you realize why you like what you have. Not just an OS, but most anything in life. I've been put onto a lot of new good food.
Linux is wonderful ain't it? I wish everyone could hear the gospel of Linus. Praise him, all ye faithful.
Amen.
By Jack Wallen
"They can purchase a new computer, one with enough oomph to run Windows
11 (an expensive proposition in an unstable economy)."
This isn't true.
To be fair, I don't think I've ever heard Mr. Torvalds knocking other
OSs ...
(I don't have to _look_ for Windows folk knocking Linux - I find that
without looking.)
For those with a computer that can’t handle Window 11, and who are
caught like a deer in the headlights of the approaching end of support
for Windows 10, there are 3 things you can do:
* Suck it up. Junk your existing machine and buy something more modern.
* Stick it out with an obsolete, unsupported OS. By all means continue
to run mission-critical business operations on it, and it will still
keep working fine ... until the day it doesn’t.
* Switch to some more modern OS that will be supported on your
hardware.
On Sat, 21 Jun 2025 17:08:14 -0400, Paul wrote:
Select a motherboard that supports DDR4, and buy your DDR4 RAM today,
before the supply runs out. Anyone holding off on buying their DDR4
upgrade, should do so right now, this minute. The last company making
DDR4, has announced EOL. Only a Chinese fab would have DDR4 after this.
DDR5 isn't quite as cheap.
I've seen this with past generations of RAM and even smaller HDs. The old stuff is either unobtanium or insanely priced unless you can find it on eBay.
On Fri, 20 Jun 2025 19:33:06 -0500, Hank Rogers wrote:
Linux is wonderful ain't it? I wish everyone could hear the gospel of
Linus. Praise him, all ye faithful.
Amen.
Open Source doesn’t have access to multi-million-dollar publicity budgets like the proprietary companies do, to tell everyone how wonderful they
are. All we have is word of mouth, from actual users.
There seem to be a lot of enthusiast reports about "the week I spent
with Linux", those sorts of articles.
[Microsoft’s] advertising must be very clever and subliminal.
If they do mention what version of Windows that laptop is running,
though, I haven't noticed ...
Why would it stop working? Hardware failures, sure. That can happen to anything. But the software is not "obsolete". Windows 10 will
continue to run just fine.
For example. My wife works in a research lab. There are several
machines there (Gas chromatography, etc.) that rely on Windows 10 PCs
for control/results/reports. These computers are NOT on the company network. The only network is between the PC, the machine it is
controlling and a local printer. Thus, no chance of malware infections
and also no critical need to upgrade. These are definitely
"mission-critical business operations".
Besides, unless you are talking about web apps, the "mission-critical business operations" that are currently running on Windows are not going
to run on Linux.
On 2025/6/23 1:27:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 11:59:15 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
If they do mention what version of Windows that laptop is running,
though, I haven't noticed ...
They often do. At one time, Microsoft would pay for part of the cost of
the ad if it included a phrase like “«PC company» recommends Microsoft® >> Windows™”.
... we're hardly ever seeing <PC company> ad.s these days ...
On Mon, 23 Jun 2025 14:39:27 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
On 2025/6/23 1:27:16, Lawrence D'Oliveiro wrote:
On Sun, 22 Jun 2025 11:59:15 +0100, J. P. Gilliver wrote:
If they do mention what version of Windows that laptop is running,
though, I haven't noticed ...
They often do. At one time, Microsoft would pay for part of the cost of
the ad if it included a phrase like “«PC company» recommends Microsoft®
Windows™”.
... we're hardly ever seeing <PC company> ad.s these days ...
They sponsor events to announce new products. And then you get a flurry of “news” articles telling the ordinary people (you and me) about the new GUI
with the 3D effects (or lack of them) and the new window-placement algorithm, or the “Liquid Glass” styling, or whatever.
The big-budget advertising is still there, never fear.
I remember laughing years ago at an ad for Windows highlighting
"Windows Snap" :-D
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 08:25:36 -0400, Chris Ahlstrom wrote:
I remember laughing years ago at an ad for Windows highlighting
"Windows Snap" :-D
If you actually partake of any of the various media that serve ads
(i.e. tv, radio, whatever else) then you are a despicable human degenerate.
Aside from the ridiculous highway billboards, which any advanced
society would summarily outlaw, I have not experienced an ad in
any form since I was 16 years old. (Before then I had no control.)
I do, however, remember the following parody I encountered somewhere, decades ago, which appealed to me:>
I think that I shall never see
a billboard lovely as a tree.
Where do you live? In a cave?
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/microsoft-extends-free-windows-10- security-updates-into-2026-with-strings-attached/
Microsoft blinks again...
That's like some sort of hostage-taking scenario.
On Tue, 24 Jun 2025 18:31:28 -0400, Paul wrote:
That's like some sort of hostage-taking scenario.
As long as you keep giving Microsoft your money, why should they care what you think?
Paul wrote:
rbowman wrote:
https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2025/06/microsoft-extends-free-windows-10-security-updates-into-2026-with-strings-attached/
Microsoft blinks again...
I don't think "blink" is quite the right word.
I'm going to need H&R Block to decode this "deal" for me.
And enabling a "Backup" software to make copies of
my personal files in their Cloud, that's a non-starter
right there.
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