On Sat, 5/17/2025 8:21 PM, micky wrote:
In alt.comp.os.windows-11, on Sat, 17 May 2025 10:29:33 -0400, Paul <nospam@needed.invalid> wrote:
On Sat, 5/17/2025 8:57 AM, micky wrote:
Just a curiosity about win10 that might apply to win11 too.
This pertains to what icon shows up in the task bar. For RadioMaximus.
On winPro, it's the one he has used for decades, a white circle with two >>> radiating curved lines. That was also true in my winHome laptop for a
year or two but then it changed to a white 8.5x11 rectangle. I didn't
like that so I made another round icon in the desktop and moved it to
the taskbar, and it magically turned into a rectangle again. That's the >>> really strange part.
If you look at Propeties and the icons embedded in RadioMaximus, there
is only the white circle. Where it gets the white rectangle and why, I
have really no idea.
Meanwhile in Pro, it's still a circle and has shown no signs of
changing. What is going on with Home?
For more than a decade I've used RadioMaximus, which I recommend highly. >>> I'm listening to it now, 181.FM Oldies. There is also 181.FM Love
Songs. It has hundreds of webradio stations from all over the world,
sorted by country or genre, and you can add your own if you know the
url, and I think he will put them in the list he gives out if you let
him. It's not dependant on a web browser. You can also record whatever
is playing, and it's all free unless you want to schedule recordings in
advance. The paid version is priced very modestly.
On Sundays from 7 to 11, for the last 50+ years, WAMU broadcasts radio
shows from the 50's, and some times I couldn't be home then, so I used
the timed recording to save them for me. Now that particular show, The
Big Broadcast, is on web so I don't need my timed recording as much for
that one, but there are thousands of other programs one might want.
You can see the ingredients the helper here, blames it on.
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/windows-11-random-desktop-icons-turn-white-blank/4a6fcce8-e677-40ee-adab-abf42f7eac31
I'm impressed that you found almost the exact same problem. It IS the
same problem but for me it's the taskbar and not the desktop. When the taskbar icon changed to a white page, the desktop icon stayed the same,
and the old and new ones are still correct (I only created a second one because maybe the first one had bad blood!)
None of the causes he speculated apply to me.
Sometimes, a user has automation that is "cleaning stuff", and it
is damaging something.
I don't have any cleaning running ever.
If the file system was not handled cleanly at shutdown, that
would be an opportunity for damage. Does Windows ever roll back
a Registry file completely ? I don't think so. If you made some
changes to the Registry, as the last thing before a reboot,
maybe something could get lost. If you have other things that
point to unreliable storage, perhaps that is a hint at a root cause.
I don't think so but this happened months ago and I didn't have time to
post then. .
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Are you running your Taskbar changing tools, on the affected PC ?
Is that an ingredient ?
Open Shell, that's all.
While W10 and W11, definitely share some things, there are
also differences between OSes too. I would not automatically
assume, a problem seen on one, has to manifest exactly the same
on the other. For that matter, with A/B testing and dynamically
enabled Features, even two instances of the same OS don't
have to work the same.
The problem is that windows is too complicated. I'll let you know when
my project is ready. I'm working on an abacus that can display videos.
The Taskbar row, likely has two components.
It would use the iconcache for the program icon in the bar.
When you hover over the icon, it shows you thumbnails of the
program windows. Those could be kept in separate caches.
The iconcache, could get upset, if a program "updates itself",
and there is some versioning mechanism the cache uses, and any
custom association could get lost that way. It likely wasn't
designed to keep a custom icon reference, every time the software
is upgraded/updated.
If it's just the program icon in the taskbar, and not all the
data files using that icon get changed to a rectangle, then it
likely isn't a default file association which has changed.
It makes you wonder sometimes, how much better or worst it would
work, if there were no caches at all. I've seen one comment that
claims the TurboJPEG library the OS uses is so fast, it can make
a thumbnail faster than the .db file can do a lookup :-) Which
is sad indeed. The reversal of the situation, comes with PDF
documents, where a thumbnail created there is expensive, and
caching is a better thing to do for that one. Not everyone has
PDF thumbnails set up (you need a "provider" to do that).
Paul
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