Subject: Re: Focus taken by email program; Alt-tab goes to some 3rd window,
instead of where I was.

On Tue, 12/10/2024 12:05 PM, micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

micky wrote:

Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.

Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?

2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.

I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the "PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?

I have a Win7 and a Win11 open at the moment, and
alt-tab seems pretty well behaved to me. You have to
look at the graphic in the center of the screen, to
orient yourself, so you can advance to the window you want.

Maybe windows treats Metro.Apps and Win32 graphical windows differently.
You can check Task Manager, and see if the Session ID is weird. I see
my stuff is Session 1 and the system executables are in Session 0.
And if you are using fast user switching, another users programs might
be Session 2 or something. The Session number could mess with the
sequence of windows presented. Just a guess.

I don't know how many other ways there are of diverting attention
away from a window like that. There is bring window to front,
or bring window behind, and that seemed to have some dependency
on whether something was Run As Administrator. Would that have
the same Session Number ? Dunno.

Maybe some program like Explorer Patcher, Classic Shell,
StartIsBack is involved ?

Paul

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Subject: Re: Focus taken by email program; Alt-tab goes to some 3rd window,
instead of where I was.

On 12/10/2024 12:05 PM, micky wrote:

In alt.comp.os.windows-10, on Tue, 10 Dec 2024 16:52:36 +0000, Andy
Burns <usenet@andyburns.uk> wrote:

micky wrote:

Sometimes (but not always, go figure) when Eudora fetches email (and
probably when other programs insist on focus), it interrupts what I'm
doing and takes the computer's focus.

Sounds like a Eudora issue not Win10, nothing should steal focus all by
itself, so I wouldn't hold your hopes too high that Win11 will be any
different ... how old is your Eudora version?

2006. Aged in oak casks. I don't mind the stealing focus. I just don't understand why alt-tab doesn't take it back to where it was.

I would think the OS is completely in charge of saving the previous
window and directing Alt-tab to the previous window. Unless Eudora had
one or two specific lines to go out of Eudora files and change the "PreviousWindow" value, and why would a sane programmer do that?

I have the same problem with Excel. With every other app, I can switch between two screens easily by doing Alt-Tab, even with several screens
open. But if one of them is Excel, I can alt-tab to the other but then
going back to the Excel screen the Alt-Tab doesn't always work.

If you do the Alt-Tab and hold down the ALt you can see all your screens arranged. With non Excel screens, the two tabs I'm switching between
always arrange them selves as the top two screens. But if the Excel
screen is 6th or 7th, it stays there, so Alt-Tab just goes back to the
top two screens. Sometimes I can shift to the Excel screen by doing alt-shift-tab, but alt-tab doesn't usually work. In contrast, I never
had this problem with Win 7 where Alt-tab always worked even if one of
the apps was Excel

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