On Apr 16, 2026 12:29am, DIGITAL MAN wrote to GAMGEE:

Re: Message gating/crossover with FSXnet...
By: Digital Man to Gamgee on Thu Apr 16 2026 12:28 am

Re: Message gating/crossover with FSXnet...
By: Gamgee to All on Wed Apr 15 2026 08:22 am

Something strange I'm seeing... In this DoveNet area I'm seeing a

dozen

or so messages that were posted in the FSXNet "General" echo. Somehow
they are being gated to here, complete with FSX origin lines.

Anybody else seeing this, and/or know the cause?

Not seeing it here. Double-check your internal codes. Sounds like you be
using the same internal code for both subs.

I take that back, I am seeing those messages.
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Just curious, who is handling the ftn side of DoveNet?

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Re: RE: Message gating/crosso
By: Robert Wolfe to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 16 2026 11:49 am

Howdy,

Just curious, who is handling the ftn side of DoveNet?

I think there are a few of us who do.

I have it available via clrghouz https://clrghouz.bbs.dege.au


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Re: RE: Message gating/crosso
By: Robert Wolfe to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 16 2026 11:49 am

Just curious, who is handling the ftn side of DoveNet?

There is no official "ftn side of DOVE-Net" (e.g. an official zone number, hub, node list). Some sysops gate to FTN for some periods of time and then stop. <shrug>
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On Apr 17, 2026 01:03pm, DIGITAL MAN wrote to Robert Wolfe:

Re: RE: Message gating/crosso
By: Robert Wolfe to DIGITAL MAN on Thu Apr 16 2026 11:49 am

Just curious, who is handling the ftn side of DoveNet?

There is no official "ftn side of DOVE-Net" (e.g. an official

zone

number, hub, node list). Some sysops gate to FTN for some

periods of

time and then stop. <shrug> --

digital man (rob)

Oh, ok, I was just wondering.

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Robert Wolfe wrote to DIGITAL MAN <=-

Oh, ok, I was just wondering.

I allow FTN nodes to get dovenet here, if that is what you meant.

I am not sure who is gating some of the echoes to FIDO specifically.



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Hey Mike!

On Mon, Apr 20 2026 09:50:00 -0500, you wrote:

I am not sure who is gating some of the echoes to FIDO specifically.

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While I don't think it's you doing the gating, your point address in your origin line for this echo on your test system probably isn't helping the matter.

Unless you actually posted this to FSX. Then there's an issue, since I'm reading this in the Dovenet Help area.

Regards,
Nick

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While I don't think it's you doing the gating, your point address
in your origin line for this echo on your test system probably
isn't helping the matter.

Let's see what a locally posted message does.


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While I don't think it's you doing the gating, your point address
in your origin line for this echo on your test system probably
isn't helping the matter.

Curiouser and curiouser. ;)


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Hey Mike!

On Tue, Apr 21 2026 11:43:00 -0500, you wrote:

Let's see what a locally posted message does.

This one came through with CAPTEST as the BBSID again, but has your FSX point in an origin line below.

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I noticed the last message I replied to you were in the "To" field. If this one is wrong along with the other one, the above origin line was the difference.

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Message gating/crosso
By: Accession to Accession on Tue Apr 21 2026 04:27 pm

Hey Mike!

On Tue, Apr 21 2026 11:43:00 -0500, you wrote:

Let's see what a locally posted message does.

This one came through with CAPTEST as the BBSID again, but has your
FSX point in an origin line below.

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TEST (21:1/175.6)

I noticed the last message I replied to you were in the "To" field.
If this one is wrong along with the other one, the above origin
line was the difference.

Regards, Nick

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you are replying to yourself in this msg
(DOVE-Net/2 Hardware/Software Help/Hardware/Software Help)
from:Accession (VERT/PHARCYDE)

to:Accession
subject:Re: Message gating/crosso
date:Tue Apr 21 2026 04:27 pm attrib: ÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄÄ

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Hey Mike!

On Tue, Apr 21 2026 11:43:00 -0500, you wrote:

Let's see what a locally posted message does.

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Hey Mro!

On Wed, Apr 22 2026 02:22:09 -0500, you wrote:

you are replying to yourself in this msg

Yeah, we realized that any time I reply to Mike's messages from his "Scorpio TEST" system, things don't seem to be working correctly. I don't think it's me that has the issue (as it happens via NNTP and as well as Golded, I checked). I'm wondering if (some of) his messages isn't including something that is needed, but I haven't figured it out yet.

Saw him doing some testing on Fidonet, so maybe he figured it out already.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Mike!

On Tue, Apr 21 2026 14:11:00 -0500, you wrote:

Curiouser and curiouser. ;)


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This one seemed to reply to you in Golded (tested), but here's a reply via NNTP/Thunderbird.

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Mike!

On Tue, 21 Apr 2026 19:11:00 +0000, you wrote:

@MSGID: 1642.dove-hlp@723:1/0 2e4d2ec1
@REPLY: 1637.dove-hlp@723:1/0 2e4bdc7f

Curiouser and curiouser. ;)

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@PATH: 1/0 1

And here's Golded. Worked here, but something is awry with NNTP via Synchronet, as I noticed when I posted it replied to myself.

I wonder if it's because the MSGID and REPLY kludges are the same address?

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Accession!

On Wed, 22 Apr 2026 17:45:32 -0500, I wrote:

I wonder if it's because the MSGID and REPLY kludges are the same
address?

That's probably nothing.

.. and this is an on purpose reply to myself. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Re: Re: Message gating/crosso
By: Accession to MRO on Wed Apr 22 2026 05:44 pm

Hey Mro!

On Wed, Apr 22 2026 02:22:09 -0500, you wrote:

you are replying to yourself in this msg

Yeah, we realized that any time I reply to Mike's messages from his
"Scorpio TEST" system, things don't seem to be working correctly.
I don't think it's me that has the issue (as it happens via NNTP
and as well as Golded, I checked). I'm wondering if (some of) his
messages isn't including something that is needed, but I haven't
figured it out yet.

Saw him doing some testing on Fidonet, so maybe he figured it out
already.

Regards, Nick

... Sarcasm, because beating people up is illegal.

compare his raw msg to someone else's raw msg. that should tell you if
it's something in his msg headers,etc


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Saw him doing some testing on Fidonet, so maybe he figured it out already.

I don't think I have exactly just yet. I need to add the DOVE Sysop echo and stop testing in this one! ;)

Mike


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@MSGID: 1642.dove-hlp@723:1/0 2e4d2ec1
@REPLY: 1637.dove-hlp@723:1/0 2e4bdc7f

Curiouser and curiouser. ;)

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And here's Golded. Worked here, but something is awry with NNTP via Synchronet
as I noticed when I posted it replied to myself.

I wonder if it's because the MSGID and REPLY kludges are the same address?

While I know there is something wonky on my end, as you are the only one
having this issue, I wonder if there is not also something wonky with
NNTP via Synchronet and/or Thunderbird that is also playing a role?


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Hey Mike!

On Thu, Apr 23 2026 13:41:00 -0500, you wrote:

I don't think I have exactly just yet. I need to add the DOVE Sysop
echo and stop testing in this one! ;)

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If it helps any, this one seemed like it contained a lot more headers. Maybe my reply will actually be to you this time. ;)

Regards,
Nick

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Hey Dumas!

On Thu, Apr 23 2026 10:10:49 -0500, you wrote:

While I know there is something wonky on my end, as you are the only
one having this issue, I wonder if there is not also something wonky
with NNTP via Synchronet and/or Thunderbird that is also playing a
role?

Not sure on that one. However, while I didn't reply with Golded on those specific messages, but while I tested with it there were a few (the same ones I had issues with in NNTP) that didn't put you in the "To" field. There was only one so far that seemed to work in Golded, but not via NNTP.

Regards,
Nick

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Mike Powell wrote to Accession <=-

Saw him doing some testing on Fidonet, so maybe he figured it out already.

I don't think I have exactly just yet. I need to add the DOVE Sysop
echo and stop testing in this one! ;)

I'm curious as to why you'd want to gate DOVEnet to FTN? I thought most
BBS packages support QWK networking.



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I don't think I have exactly just yet. I need to add the DOVE Sysop
echo and stop testing in this one! ;)

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If it helps any, this one seemed like it contained a lot more headers. Maybe my
reply will actually be to you this time. ;)

The web board, where that message and this one were entered, adds no headers in QWK networked areas. Whatever headers are on it when they get to you are added after they leave here (at VERT, I would guess).

That'd also be true of my old DOS BBS that is on Dove... no headers added in QWK areas.

That does help. Sounds like no headers works.

Mike

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