If I found my school was ruining my life to the point I wanted to die, then setting the school on fire with everybody who I thought was ruining my life inside would look reasonable. Perpretators of school massacres have this tendency to kill themselves as a final act of victory too: they kill themselve
so society is deprived of the delight of keeping on hurting them.
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is broken past the point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
If I found my school was ruining my life to the point I wanted to die, the setting the school on fire with everybody who I thought was ruining my lif inside would look reasonable. Perpretators of school massacres have this tendency to kill themselves as a final act of victory too: they kill thems
so society is deprived of the delight of keeping on hurting them.
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is broken past point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
In the case of the Uvalde school shooter, and some others also, they are
not students at the school they shoot up. The Uvalde shooter picked a school with kids several years younger than he in attendance. I am not
even sure he was still in school but, if he was, it would have been a high school where kids close to his age attended.
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Dumas Walker wrote to TRACKER1 <=-
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Realistically, if they *REALLY* wanted to cut down on gun violence,
they'd be trying to outlaw handguns, not rifles (AR-15 etc) to begin
with. The vast majority of gun violence and gun related crimes (armed robbery, etc) is done with a handgun... but those aren't the ones that typically make the headlines and are exceedingly rare.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the idea, just pointing out the ignorance and hypocrisy.
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a
"mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed
each day by handguns.
Definitely true. Chicago probably tops that list. The city with the strictest gun laws anywhere. What they forget is that criminals don't
obey laws.
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some of them just
think that guns are scary and we are better off with less of them, but
the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be equally as scary.
Gamgee wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be
resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some
of them just think that guns are scary and we are better off with
less of them, but the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be
equally as scary.
Yes, it should be just as scary. What I honestly think is that those
who think more gun laws will fix the problem is that they actually are
NOT interested in fixing the real problem. What they are interested
in doing is increasing the amount of control that they can have over another group of people. It's really very petty and selfish, but
that's the actual truth.
He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learning di
sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior year, and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that as well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learning di
sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior year,
and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that as
well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
You are right, it does not excuse it. However, if I was one of those kids that picked on him, I would be rethinking my ways right about now.
As you point out in another message, even if some of the kids do rethink their ways, it probably won't have a lasting affect. :(
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Weatherman wrote to Gamgee <=-
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be
resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some
of them just think that guns are scary and we are better off with
less of them, but the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be
equally as scary.
Yes, it should be just as scary. What I honestly think is that those
who think more gun laws will fix the problem is that they actually are
NOT interested in fixing the real problem. What they are interested
in doing is increasing the amount of control that they can have over another group of people. It's really very petty and selfish, but
that's the actual truth.
Those who the true power behind the push for gun control laws
desire one outcome. They are seeking to disarm the American
populace so that they may increase their power and influence over
the general population. The Second Amendment is the protector of
the entire Bill of Rights. Those who would impose severe gun
restrictions upon us are the ones who desire to impose further
limits upon our constitutional rights.
Dumas Walker wrote to TRACKER1 <=-
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Realistically, if they *REALLY* wanted to cut down on gun violence, they'd be trying to outlaw handguns, not rifles (AR-15 etc) to begin with. The vast majority of gun violence and gun related crimes (armed robbery, etc) is done with a handgun... but those aren't the ones that typically make the headlines and are exceedingly rare.
Note: this is not an endorsement of the idea, just pointing out the ignorance and hypocrisy.
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifle of any time.
Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. T cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
Regards....
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He was in high school. From what I read, he was an outcast with a learnin sability and was picked on and had no friends. He had a frined he used to hang out with until the kid's family moved away. He was in his senior yea and the school would place pictures of the seniors on the light poles in town. Somehow his picture was left out. He received teasing about that a well. Sounds liek the kid had a shitty time in school, but that only explains why he might have snapped, but doesn't excuse it. he proabably picked the elementary school because it was an easy target.
You are right, it does not excuse it. However, if I was one of those kids that picked on him, I would be rethinking my ways right about now.
As you point out in another message, even if some of the kids do rethink their ways, it probably won't have a lasting affect. :(
* SLMR 2.1a * "End of quote. Repeat the line." - Biden Words of Wisdom
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. The
cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human life. cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the society in which we live.
Agreed.
* SLMR 2.1a * "Mmmmmmmm.....doughnuts."
A few weeks ago on a Facebook thread I cited an article from about 10 years ag
o a local 8 year old killed his 4 year old brother over the last bowl of cereal left in the box. A commenter said "boys will be boys," as if this was acceptable behavior. Not in my parent's house. Not in my neighborhood would something like that happen.
A few weeks ago on a Facebook thread I cited an article from about 10 year o a local 8 year old killed his 4 year old brother over the last bowl of cereal left in the box. A commenter said "boys will be boys," as if this acceptable behavior. Not in my parent's house. Not in my neighborhood wo something like that happen.
That is a rather callous, desensitized reaction that commenter had, assuming it was not sarcasm. My parents would not have put up with violent, agressive behavior, either.
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Belly wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: JIMMY ANDERSON to DR. WHAT on Sun Jun 26 2022 01:51 pm
Hi, Jimmy... I think we might know one another in RL.
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BeLLy
Dumas Walker wrote to GAMGEE <=-
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a
"mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed
each day by handguns.
Definitely true. Chicago probably tops that list. The city with the strictest gun laws anywhere. What they forget is that criminals don't
obey laws.
I really don't understand how someone like me can explain that to
someone who seems to be able to follow logic and seems to be resonably intelligent, yet they won't understand it. IMHO, some of them just
think that guns are scary and we are better off with less of them, but
the "criminals don't obey laws" logic should be equally as scary.
Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-
The real problem is mental health, and the fact that so many are not
able to get treatment for their issues.
It goes well beyond mental health. Crazy people are a minority of shooters when compared to organized crime and gang murders. What
happened to the beliefs that life has value?
Arelor wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
The fact there is so much school violence should point out the fact
that schools are structured as stressful places in which people is
broken past the point of no return. I never see anybody talking about this.
Moondog wrote to Arelor <=-
While I hated being treated like crap by bullies, I never had thoughts
of killing anyone. Coming back later in life and making them miserable sounded more fun.
Moondog wrote to Gamgee <=-
Going out in a blaze of "glory" garners way more attention. Leave
behind a note or a manifesto, and it will be on the news regardless how poorly written or illogical it is.
Weatherman wrote to Dumas Walker <=-
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifles of any time.
Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human
life. The cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the
society in which we live.
BUT - I had a friend say something to the effect of "I don't like
guns - they were designed to kill - I'd rather there not be
any guns" and I honestly agreed with him! If it would prevent
people from hurting other people? I'd be all for it! But making
MY guns illegal while not removing ALL guns (bad guys, military,
our government, other governments) is not the answer. That just
creates a defenseless target...
Jimmy Anderson wrote to Weatherman <=-
Yes, this is true. There are some cities that probably have a "mass shootings" worth of people, and then some, shot and killed each day by handguns.
Suffice it to say more people are killed by handguns each year than by rifles of any time.
Suicides account for more firearms related deaths each year than any other. Rifles of any type are seldom utilized in suicide attempts.
The problem is not the gun. The problem is the cheapening of human
life. The cheapening of human life is a direct reflection of the
society in which we live.
Agreed! And unless something has changed, more people are killed each
year by 'fist and foot' than guns anyway...
... <A>bort <R>etry <D>o what I mean!!!
Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't forget that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).
Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't for that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).
I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately
because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards up.
"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.
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DUMAS WALKER wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-forget
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Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't
that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).
I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely
to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards
up.
"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.
DUMAS WALKER wrote to WEATHERMAN <=-
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Nothing has changed, hand-and-foot still outpaces firearms. And don't
that the lowly handgun accounts for far more deaths than that scary and deadly-looking AR-15 (or ANY rifle forthat matter).
I have always suspected that they are going after rifles more lately because they figured out that their private body guards are more likely to carry a handgun and they don't want to have to give the body guards up.
"They" in this case being celebrities and politicians.
Well - that, and they have to start somewhere...
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Hey there! Please, how? :-)
Belly wrote to Jimmy Anderson <=-
Re: Re: Gun Insurance
By: Jimmy Anderson to Belly on Thu Jan 05 2023 11:27 am
Hey there! Please, how? :-)
If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!
If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!
Yeah - I don't remember the conversation - WTETA to me is West Tennessee Educational Technology Association - I used to be a very active member...
BELLY wrote to JIMMY ANDERSON <=-
If WTETA means something to you, then probably... It's been so long now that I don't recall what sparked the connection!
Yeah - I don't remember the conversation - WTETA to me is West Tennessee Educational Technology Association - I used to be a very active member...
One and the same... Olympic steak house. I remember you playing guitar
at at least one of the picnic meetings.
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